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I would like to request that instead of displaying "2 years ago" or "12 hours ago" etc. that you simply display the timestamp.
Further, add a setting that allows people to choose the format they wish to see for date / time and maybe all times are simply UTC. (Or, bonus points for having a second setting indicating timezone and displaying the timestamp according to the user's preference.)
E.g. The OP for this thread might say:
"edited 07/15/2023 15:30" (with UTC implied)
"edited 07/15/2023 15:30 UTC"
"edited 07/15/2023 10:30 EDT"
etc.
instead of simply:
"edited 2 years ago"
Further, add a setting that allows people to choose the format they wish to see for date / time and maybe all times are simply UTC. (Or, bonus points for having a second setting indicating timezone and displaying the timestamp according to the user's preference.)
E.g. The OP for this thread might say:
"edited 07/15/2023 15:30" (with UTC implied)
"edited 07/15/2023 15:30 UTC"
"edited 07/15/2023 10:30 EDT"
etc.
instead of simply:
"edited 2 years ago"
Sufficient answer indicates that no one's doing any more research that will specifically meet the minimum asks of the question, unless they voluntarily choose to redo what has already been done. The issue arises that a later answer can be confirmed despite a prior answer already crossing the minimum threshold to be accepted, held back only by an OP that has gone inactive or refuses to tend to their open questions.
There will be higher quality answers and more minimalist ones, but both can be objectively correct. There is merit in speed on this site, but there are inconsistencies where timeliness of answer is superceded by addition of superfluous content that the question can be reliably verified without.
I'm done discussing this. Point grubbers are as point grubbers do, such is life
There will be higher quality answers and more minimalist ones, but both can be objectively correct. There is merit in speed on this site, but there are inconsistencies where timeliness of answer is superceded by addition of superfluous content that the question can be reliably verified without.
I'm done discussing this. Point grubbers are as point grubbers do, such is life
@RB29 While you call the information "superfluous" it has a purpose, to make confirmation easier. You are A LOT less likely to get confirmations when others have to REsearch your answer, basically putting in the same time/effort you did. It clearly states that in the n00b guide.
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@RB29
I agree with you, but there are people on this site obsessed with accumlating points.
It is of course up to you, but if you don't use the confirm thread, particularly for older answers, other users will come along & instead of confirming your answer, will just steal it, put it on the confirm thread & their confirming buddies will confirm their answer.
I agree with you, but there are people on this site obsessed with accumlating points.
It is of course up to you, but if you don't use the confirm thread, particularly for older answers, other users will come along & instead of confirming your answer, will just steal it, put it on the confirm thread & their confirming buddies will confirm their answer.
I have plenty of confirmed answers without ever touching the confirm thread. Point remains, there is no reason why an answer that adds superfluous content to an already sufficient answer shouldn't just be a comment, much less chosen as the correct answer years after the legwork has been done. Adding a generic fapello link and unrelated embedded images of said pornstar should not make an answer more valid than an old one, despite being more visually intrusive.
@RB29
A name alone is not acceptable & shouldn't be confirmed. It must also include proof links.
If you submit your answers to the Confirm Thread there's much more chance of your answers being confirmed. In fact it's probably the only chance.
The final point to remember is dead links. I see a lot of acceptable answers from months/years ago but when you click on the links they're dead, so I can't confirm.
The problem you have with the new answer supplanting yours, is that the new answerer is uploading to the Confirm Thread & a lot of people are now mutally confirming each others posts.
I do notice a lot of answerers are simply copying & pasting a previously confirmed answer as their own (often complete with dead links).
A name alone is not acceptable & shouldn't be confirmed. It must also include proof links.
If you submit your answers to the Confirm Thread there's much more chance of your answers being confirmed. In fact it's probably the only chance.
The final point to remember is dead links. I see a lot of acceptable answers from months/years ago but when you click on the links they're dead, so I can't confirm.
The problem you have with the new answer supplanting yours, is that the new answerer is uploading to the Confirm Thread & a lot of people are now mutally confirming each others posts.
I do notice a lot of answerers are simply copying & pasting a previously confirmed answer as their own (often complete with dead links).
I've had incidents in the past where I answered a post with the minimum of what was asked, OP vanishes and never confirms, and years later someone just piggybacks off the answer, spruces it up with some extra links and pictures that no one really asked for, and since it's the newest answer that looks nice it gets confirmed and marked as correct. I don't really care about the points all that much, but it's still kind of absurd that a perfectly fine answer is somehow considered less valid than the same answer + the first 3 google search links and a picture copy-pasted underneath. If the post asks for a name and it's easily searchable with no ambiguation, then sometimes I'll just give the name. Why should someone else just putting the name I found into a search engine years later and regurgitating the results be confirmed?
@soytupapiperra The REAL value of this site comes down to the reverse image search capabilities.
If I have some unidentified content and I am interested in knowing more, I don't even post requests or questions anymore. I simply do a search here first. If I don't find it, I go to my other tools in my research toolkit.
To drive that value, data is required. As I have said, people ask "What is her name?" for two reasons: 1) they want more content from that performer and/or 2) they have content that they want to classify and order. To say "Well, they asked for name and there is apparently no name available. So, fuck 'em." is not really valuable or useful. In fact, it's kinda ignorant.
Someone might ask "What is her name?" because they are forced to pick a single question category by the form they are presented with. The reality is, they are looking for ANY potential information available, not just name, even though that is what they were forced to ask by an ill-conceived entry form.
We don't agree on this, and that's fine. I am going to continue to provide all the information I can in my answers as I try my best to directly answer the question asked, which may not be possible sometimes. I don't think flagging it as unsolvable or whatever is the right approach simply because the name is not available and they asked for name. That should be reserved for when the OP content is no longer available without any discernable info; e.g. PH uses their own unique identifier with no descriptive information in it. When the link is dead, that's the end of that.
Oh, and btw, I didn't bring up those two answers of mine that you mentioned because they were only 1-2 days old. My understanding is that the Auto_moderator waits for 4 days to mark things as CORRECT. I was pointing out the answers I had provided that were well over a week old with MANY confirms that had still not been marked as CORRECT.
If I have some unidentified content and I am interested in knowing more, I don't even post requests or questions anymore. I simply do a search here first. If I don't find it, I go to my other tools in my research toolkit.
To drive that value, data is required. As I have said, people ask "What is her name?" for two reasons: 1) they want more content from that performer and/or 2) they have content that they want to classify and order. To say "Well, they asked for name and there is apparently no name available. So, fuck 'em." is not really valuable or useful. In fact, it's kinda ignorant.
Someone might ask "What is her name?" because they are forced to pick a single question category by the form they are presented with. The reality is, they are looking for ANY potential information available, not just name, even though that is what they were forced to ask by an ill-conceived entry form.
We don't agree on this, and that's fine. I am going to continue to provide all the information I can in my answers as I try my best to directly answer the question asked, which may not be possible sometimes. I don't think flagging it as unsolvable or whatever is the right approach simply because the name is not available and they asked for name. That should be reserved for when the OP content is no longer available without any discernable info; e.g. PH uses their own unique identifier with no descriptive information in it. When the link is dead, that's the end of that.
Oh, and btw, I didn't bring up those two answers of mine that you mentioned because they were only 1-2 days old. My understanding is that the Auto_moderator waits for 4 days to mark things as CORRECT. I was pointing out the answers I had provided that were well over a week old with MANY confirms that had still not been marked as CORRECT.
@harold
For the other two, I spent 2 hours each and they have no name available at this time.. Can you name them? If not, then, STFU.
Okay, let's try to focus on answering what the OP actually asked, rather than just adding more images/what you think the OP wanted.
I understand people want to contribute and earn points, but the goal should be to provide accurate and relevant information.
For the other two, I spent 2 hours each and they have no name available at this time.. Can you name them? If not, then, STFU.
Okay, let's try to focus on answering what the OP actually asked, rather than just adding more images/what you think the OP wanted.
I understand people want to contribute and earn points, but the goal should be to provide accurate and relevant information.
@Yoni Thanks for taking the time to provide some kind of response. I have no idea who the "staff" are here because they are either asleep at the wheel or they just don't gaf or whatever.
I disagree with you on your approach to providing information. E.g. the photographer. There instances where discovering the name of the talent is just not possible. That doesn't negate the value of all the other information associated with the request. The form forces people to select a type of question, which is an ill-conceived approach. Why do people ask for a name? What is the intent? (HINT: to find more content, usually, or to label the content that they have.) To that end, some information is better than nothing, especially when some of these requests have been sitting there for YEARS. Maybe there should be some logic implemented on the site that if a request isn't answered or even commented on for a year or two or whatever, it is automatically targeted for deletion. There are SO many stale requests with broken links on here... it's sad.
FYI, I had heard from Don (indirectly) that there is or was an issue with the Auto_moderator having something to do with manually assigned bounties and that's why it hasn't been marking things as correct.
I could tell you about my 40 years as a SWDEV with over 35 years in webdev... 25 years ago, my team and I built the neural network models and scoring engine that most banks use still to this day to detect fraudulent transactions, processing millions of transactions / day. When there is a hit, it is always kicked over to a real person to validate.
That's what is needed here, more trusted moderators who are interested in helping who can have the final say on what is CORRECT. Machines cannot effectively validate things like a human can. In the end, there need to be more moderators here, not an algorithm that leaves "thousands of answers" sitting there waiting.
"hasty"... lol. Nah, I think I have been very reasonable. A day in the world of the Internet is like a year... I have been pretty patient but I expect things to work as they were designed to work. If they aren't (process or code) then I am going to call it out, not just pretend it's MY impatience that is the issue.
I first visited this site about 9-10 years ago because I had a few questions about some IDs. The tools back then were not as robust or accessible as they are today.
I thought that this would be a board with a bunch of experts who could simply look at a pic or video and know the source / information. Seven years ago I created an account thinking that maybe if I have an account people would pay more attention to my questions. Instead, I ended up answering my own requests over time by researching them myself.
Your post has helped me to realize that I don't think this site is really for me. I don't need someone else to use reverse image search for me or other methods of researching for my own questions.
And, as far as answering other people's questions, it would be better to teach them how to search for themselves; although, there will still be people too lazy or too stupid to help themselves, I reckon.
I think the points idea had good intentions. It inspires people to spend some time on those. However, in the end, the implementation is flawed.
For one thing, what is the "why" for pursuing additional levels? Points = higher level but do higher levels lead to? Beyond Level 5, no one has been able to tell me what the benefits are.
In fact, there is a wholesale lack of simple information here, like how many points you need for each level, what the levels can do, etc. Gamifying things can lead to increased engagement. It also inevitably leads to shenanigans. So, you have a bunch of renegades exploiting loopholes in the system just to level up and, for what? Because they can.
I won't rage quit. Instead, I am going to leave my answers out there and if they get scored, fine. If not, fine. If my account gets deleted or suspended because the staff doesn't like me pointing out the issues, fine. I am kinda done trying to help when it isn't appreciated and being ignored when I point out issues.
I disagree with you on your approach to providing information. E.g. the photographer. There instances where discovering the name of the talent is just not possible. That doesn't negate the value of all the other information associated with the request. The form forces people to select a type of question, which is an ill-conceived approach. Why do people ask for a name? What is the intent? (HINT: to find more content, usually, or to label the content that they have.) To that end, some information is better than nothing, especially when some of these requests have been sitting there for YEARS. Maybe there should be some logic implemented on the site that if a request isn't answered or even commented on for a year or two or whatever, it is automatically targeted for deletion. There are SO many stale requests with broken links on here... it's sad.
FYI, I had heard from Don (indirectly) that there is or was an issue with the Auto_moderator having something to do with manually assigned bounties and that's why it hasn't been marking things as correct.
I could tell you about my 40 years as a SWDEV with over 35 years in webdev... 25 years ago, my team and I built the neural network models and scoring engine that most banks use still to this day to detect fraudulent transactions, processing millions of transactions / day. When there is a hit, it is always kicked over to a real person to validate.
That's what is needed here, more trusted moderators who are interested in helping who can have the final say on what is CORRECT. Machines cannot effectively validate things like a human can. In the end, there need to be more moderators here, not an algorithm that leaves "thousands of answers" sitting there waiting.
"hasty"... lol. Nah, I think I have been very reasonable. A day in the world of the Internet is like a year... I have been pretty patient but I expect things to work as they were designed to work. If they aren't (process or code) then I am going to call it out, not just pretend it's MY impatience that is the issue.
I first visited this site about 9-10 years ago because I had a few questions about some IDs. The tools back then were not as robust or accessible as they are today.
I thought that this would be a board with a bunch of experts who could simply look at a pic or video and know the source / information. Seven years ago I created an account thinking that maybe if I have an account people would pay more attention to my questions. Instead, I ended up answering my own requests over time by researching them myself.
Your post has helped me to realize that I don't think this site is really for me. I don't need someone else to use reverse image search for me or other methods of researching for my own questions.
And, as far as answering other people's questions, it would be better to teach them how to search for themselves; although, there will still be people too lazy or too stupid to help themselves, I reckon.
I think the points idea had good intentions. It inspires people to spend some time on those. However, in the end, the implementation is flawed.
For one thing, what is the "why" for pursuing additional levels? Points = higher level but do higher levels lead to? Beyond Level 5, no one has been able to tell me what the benefits are.
In fact, there is a wholesale lack of simple information here, like how many points you need for each level, what the levels can do, etc. Gamifying things can lead to increased engagement. It also inevitably leads to shenanigans. So, you have a bunch of renegades exploiting loopholes in the system just to level up and, for what? Because they can.
I won't rage quit. Instead, I am going to leave my answers out there and if they get scored, fine. If not, fine. If my account gets deleted or suspended because the staff doesn't like me pointing out the issues, fine. I am kinda done trying to help when it isn't appreciated and being ignored when I point out issues.
@soytupapiperra I guess reading isn't your thing... lol. I provided a name on the very first one you cited.
For the other two, I spent 2 hours each and they have no name available at this time.. Can you name them? If not, then, STFU. Typically, people ask "What is her name?" for two reasons: 1) because they are looking for more content and/or 2) they already have content and they are looking for some criteria by which to classify that content.
I provided as much identification and content as is available at this time. Try to step out of your literal, narrow mind for a moment and think about the intent, not just the specific question that was asked.
For the other two, I spent 2 hours each and they have no name available at this time.. Can you name them? If not, then, STFU. Typically, people ask "What is her name?" for two reasons: 1) because they are looking for more content and/or 2) they already have content and they are looking for some criteria by which to classify that content.
I provided as much identification and content as is available at this time. Try to step out of your literal, narrow mind for a moment and think about the intent, not just the specific question that was asked.
@harold
Model not pornstar:
No name just more photos and asking to be selected as correct:
name of that girl please
What's the name of the curly girl?
You're skipping these ones, and they’ll probably get selected as correct... even though they’ve got a bunch of false confirmations... because they don’t actually answer the question.
That’s exactly why this process should take time.
Model not pornstar:
Name of this babe?
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name of that girl please
name of that girl please
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What's the name of the curly girl?
What's the name of the curly girl?
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You're skipping these ones, and they’ll probably get selected as correct... even though they’ve got a bunch of false confirmations... because they don’t actually answer the question.
That’s exactly why this process should take time.
@D-Mac Regarding the followings, you can click the bull horn icon to remove a post from the following list.
In my maintenance process, I do this for any answer I have solved once it is marked as solved. If I still have an interest in the post I mark it as a favorite. This means my followings are primarily things I have answered but still haven't been marked correct.
As for untitled, I assume those are inappropriate posts that the Mods have deleted for whatever reason such as not a pornstar. I have a few of those. I have been told there is no solution to that at this time. They are slowly drifting down my page to the bottom.
In my maintenance process, I do this for any answer I have solved once it is marked as solved. If I still have an interest in the post I mark it as a favorite. This means my followings are primarily things I have answered but still haven't been marked correct.
As for untitled, I assume those are inappropriate posts that the Mods have deleted for whatever reason such as not a pornstar. I have a few of those. I have been told there is no solution to that at this time. They are slowly drifting down my page to the bottom.
Hey there@harold unfortunately my privileges on the site do not vary of yours, best I can do is to drop a confirm those answers I think to be good; Same as you I'm bound to the limits offered to a regular user of the site; On that topic I advise you to remove the tag of the photographer Mark Hollywood from your answer (below), as he's not a performer therefore has no place on the database, however I do applaud the attempt of providing credit to the hard work of the photographers and advise you to leave the name if you want but do it in a less intrusive way and just add format to it to make it stand out :)
Here you can see how I'v done it as well, photographer is there but isn't tagged.
Friendly advise don't get hasty on not getting accepted unfortunately thousands like yours or mine remain unsolved for a long time before getting noticed, auto_moderator is after all an algorithm and just as us is flawed, most of your answers seem to be good and contain clues of hard work and an excellent tracker, in this scenario the best advise I can provide is to befriend som high scoring users (maybe confirm some of their answers for some good will) and most surely they'll be glad drop a confirm here and there that could finally get you solved by auto_mod :D
Cheers!
Who is she? More of her, please?
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AnsweredFriendly advise don't get hasty on not getting accepted unfortunately thousands like yours or mine remain unsolved for a long time before getting noticed, auto_moderator is after all an algorithm and just as us is flawed, most of your answers seem to be good and contain clues of hard work and an excellent tracker, in this scenario the best advise I can provide is to befriend som high scoring users (maybe confirm some of their answers for some good will) and most surely they'll be glad drop a confirm here and there that could finally get you solved by auto_mod :D
Cheers!
@Operator @Don @Yoni
The auto_moderator appears to be broken. I have the following answers waiting to be marked CORRECT:
12 days old - 7 confirms -
7 days old - 6 confirms
7 days old - 5 confirms
7 days old - 5 confirms
5 days old - 7 confirms
Could someone please look into this? Maybe mark these CORRECT manually or something?
The auto_moderator appears to be broken. I have the following answers waiting to be marked CORRECT:
12 days old - 7 confirms -
What's the name of this pornstar ?
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Another unknow beauty, who is she ?
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What's the name of this girl in stockings taking 2 bbc at 2:31
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Who is she? More of her, please?
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Anyone got the source?
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AnsweredCould someone please look into this? Maybe mark these CORRECT manually or something?
@LonelyCurious13 Well, atm, I am more concerned because the staff seems to be asleep at the wheel. I have been pointing out that there is an issue with the auto-moderator because a bunch of my posts have been sitting there for >4-5 days with 5+ confirms each. I haven't had a single response from anyone.
Let's be reasonable...Can a brother get his answers marked CORRECT ffs??? It's like 20-30k of points which isn't much to ask for HOURS of my FREE research time spent to contribute to this site.
Let's be reasonable...Can a brother get his answers marked CORRECT ffs??? It's like 20-30k of points which isn't much to ask for HOURS of my FREE research time spent to contribute to this site.
@LonelyCurious13 100%. It's complete bullshit that someone would delete CORRECT answers to requests and/or their own requests that were confirmed as CORRECT. It's the behavior of an utterly selfish cunt...
Trusted Links
Are trusted links still useful to the Mods or Auto Mods?
I find them less than useful and usually counter productive. At one time, most sites allowed you to come browse pornstars and images of their movies. I rarely find that to be the case today. Almost all now require you to sign in to view anything beyond the first page.
This is counterproductive when the "trusted links" are provided as proof, especially in the cases when it is the only proof. How can you confirm based on a trusted link if no one can see the pornstar? I personally won't confirm a post with only a trusted link.
Do these links provide a revenue source to the site. I can understand that, something has to pay for this. If so, should we always include a trusted site link even if we can't see it. I occasionally find links to sites in places like data18 but don't post them because I can't see them.
Happy to help the site when I can, I just don't see the point.
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Are trusted links still useful to the Mods or Auto Mods?
I find them less than useful and usually counter productive. At one time, most sites allowed you to come browse pornstars and images of their movies. I rarely find that to be the case today. Almost all now require you to sign in to view anything beyond the first page.
This is counterproductive when the "trusted links" are provided as proof, especially in the cases when it is the only proof. How can you confirm based on a trusted link if no one can see the pornstar? I personally won't confirm a post with only a trusted link.
Do these links provide a revenue source to the site. I can understand that, something has to pay for this. If so, should we always include a trusted site link even if we can't see it. I occasionally find links to sites in places like data18 but don't post them because I can't see them.
Happy to help the site when I can, I just don't see the point.
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@soytupapiperra And, I don't trust you either... member for 9 years and you only have 69.4k points... lol. I joined because I had a few questions; none of which have been answered to this day. Recently, I have had more time to kill and "tracking down" IDs etc. is like solving a puzzle to me. I have a background in forensics. So, similar in a way; gathering evidence, proof, support, etc.
My point is at some point you have to trust people because you cannot rely on rules to keep people honest. And again, it wouldn't just be based on points alone. As you say, if someone has 1.2M points in a month, I might even consider suspending their account, let alone making them an admin. On the other hand, there might be someone like yourself who has been on here a long time, is helpful, not "cheating" etc. who would be a great moderator. Moderators don't just fall out of the sky, but we certainly need more of them to handle the ridiculous backlog of answers that have been CONFIRMED but are sitting there waiting to be marked CORRECT. (Read: there are a LOT)
Another super power that would be great is the ability to delete posts. E.g. there are a LOT of requests that say "Who is this girl?" from 7-9 years ago and the only other clue is a PH link that is now dead. Unlike other sites, PH doesn't have anything descriptive in their links. Just their own unique ID number. So, you cannot even search a title for the clip on another site. Those are essentially unsolvable.
My point is at some point you have to trust people because you cannot rely on rules to keep people honest. And again, it wouldn't just be based on points alone. As you say, if someone has 1.2M points in a month, I might even consider suspending their account, let alone making them an admin. On the other hand, there might be someone like yourself who has been on here a long time, is helpful, not "cheating" etc. who would be a great moderator. Moderators don't just fall out of the sky, but we certainly need more of them to handle the ridiculous backlog of answers that have been CONFIRMED but are sitting there waiting to be marked CORRECT. (Read: there are a LOT)
Another super power that would be great is the ability to delete posts. E.g. there are a LOT of requests that say "Who is this girl?" from 7-9 years ago and the only other clue is a PH link that is now dead. Unlike other sites, PH doesn't have anything descriptive in their links. Just their own unique ID number. So, you cannot even search a title for the clip on another site. Those are essentially unsolvable.
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