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@Don

Why was my thread deleted this time?

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It was simply a thread dedicated to anal sex scenes. Not TS sex scenes, just anal sex scenes, so why was it removed? Are anal scenes banned from this site too? Which they clearly aren't, so it makes no sense me why my thread needed to be removed. It didn't even contain any videos, pics or comments yet, since it was deleted mins after I posted it. I've found plenty of similarly themed threads, so I will now compare my deleted thread which was dedicated to anal porn to other threads that have not been deleted:

Here's one dedicated to cartoon porn, and it has not been deleted:

For Cartoon Porn Lovers

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Here's one dedicated to public porn, and it has not been deleted:

For Public Porn Lovers

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Here's one dedicated to sleeping porn, and it has not been deleted:

For Sleeping Porn Lovers

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Here's one dedicated to cumshots, and it has not be deleted:

Great cumshots

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Here's one dedicated to incest porn, which I'm pretty sure is illegal in a lot of places, but yet their thread has not been deleted:

Best Mom Son Taboo Porn Videos

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Is it the anal that's getting my thread deleted? Well after doing a bit of searching, I found that there are 2 threads dedicated to anal in some way, and they have not been deleted either:

Who are the best anal loving pornstars?

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Anal with a story

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@Meliodas What do you mean get rid of it? If the link's dead, then just let it be dead.

how do i get rid of following the dead link as other people can see it but not me

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@WorldsBestPorn

I can understand that, but don't you think that sets a very dangerous precedent? Because you admit that none of those individual flags were valid enough to get my thread taken down, but simply because there were many of them from various users, then that means they must have been valid after all?

If there was no basis whatsoever, the thread wouldn't have been removed - no matter the number of flags. You were "on the line" with some of your posts but in a case by case basis the staff decided to turn a blind eye to your attitude, in order to allow the discussion to continue, but at some point it became too much and the staff had to draw the line somewhere.

Thank you. I will attempt to repost my thread simply informing people about your TS policy. It won't contain any violent GIF images, or TS content. I will post the link here in my message just in case it gets removed immediately like the previous 2.

Unfortunately, my request for you to hold that conversation in a respectful manner has apparently fallen on deaf ears. We'll allow it for the time being, but I feel like I have already explained every point raised by you in your thread over and over again in great detail. Why post the same exact thing again instead of revising it with the information that I have given you, if your aim is to "inform people" is beyond me.

Also, at this point, I'd like to ask everyone to take anything related to the subject to the TS thread created by@WorldsBestPorn

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Thank you.

@Don

Thank you for your reply. You've been very helpful on this matter.

"People who originally posted the question can still mark answers correct."

That's a good point, so I apologize for that one. Technically, depending on their level, someone could post banned content, get it answered, and mark it as correct before the post is even flagged, much less removed. However, since the GIF in question had been answered 9 months ago, I assumed that at some point a mod must had at least stumbled upon it and had no problem with it. But I admit that I don't know for sure if that was the case.

"It is true that our moderators didn't find enough basis for a suspension/thread removal when it came to individual flags. But as the complaints from different users over a longer period of time kept coming - in the end it all added up and ultimately lead to the removal of your thread, not just the gif you posted."

I can understand that, but don't you think that sets a very dangerous precedent? Because you admit that none of those individual flags were valid enough to get my thread taken down, but simply because there were many of them from various users, then that means they must have been valid after all? Take a popular Youtube video about Atheism, for example. That video may rack up tons of flags from Christians who want the video taken down, even though it doesn't violate any guidelines. The same can be said about a Christian video getting tons of flags from Atheists. So should the videos be taken down due to the sheer amount of false flags they received? Absolutely not. My thread was controversial to some people, and that's the only reason it received those flags.

"If a discussion is held in a respectful and productive manner, there is absolutely no chance it will get removed by staff members."

I have to respectfully disagree with this, because I was respectful to nearly everyone in my thread. In fact, there were 16 comments in my thread, and 15/16 were in support of allowing TS content. The only one that was negative was the comment that@monohorn mentioned to you earlier. The comment compared TS porn not to only Bestiality (animal sex), but to child porn. In essence, comparing people who enjoy TS porn to pedophiles. That's right, this user compared the act of sex between 2 or more legal, consenting adults to child porn. Is there a "respectful and productive" way to respond to being labeled a supporter of child porn? I don't think so, and I responded to the user in the same manner as anyone would. On a side-note, the reason why I remember this user and his comment so well is because he is consistently in the top 10 leader boards. He has also made many other rude, inciting and disgusting comments like that to me before. I'm not trying to imply his high ranking has gained him favor with the staff, but I do know that I have reported many of his comments in the past, and none were ever taken down. In fact, a few months ago, I was actually suspended for responding to one of his rude, inciting and disgusting comments. I won't mention his name here, but that user is a follower of this thread, so I'm sure he's reading this and knows who he is.

"Again, as long as the thread is respectful towards the site, staff members and other users it will not be removed."

Thank you. I will attempt to repost my thread simply informing people about your TS policy. It won't contain any violent GIF images, or TS content. I will post the link here in my message just in case it gets removed immediately like the previous 2.

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@Don

Got it, appreciate the clarification :)

@monohorn

We plan to add 3 main categories types (Straight/TS/Gay) Where users could set up their preferences when they sign up or in their profile settings - only selected categories will be displayed to the user. In addition, tags or sub-categories will be introduced. So people, can filter through various sub-categories, when looking for content.

We do hope to introduce various new features including content filtering during 2017, unfortunately we can't make any promises when it comes to deadlines since we work on this site in our free time and everyday maintenance takes a big chunk of it.

My question is, if a flag is submitted for "disgusting content", how does the staff evaluate and decide whether the content should be deleted?

It is highly subjective and moderators try to use their best judgement when making these decisions but as I said in my previous comment, no single flag/complaint was the deciding factor for the thread removal. It was the collection of flags received during a lengthy period of time, by a number of different users - with most of them addressing their concern/dislike over the OP's general behavior and hostile tone. If a discussion is held in a respectful and productive manner, there is absolutely no chance it will get removed by staff members.

I voiced my support for allowing TS content in @WorldsBestPorn's thread, but since it has been deleted I suppose that's a moot point.

Going forward, though, I do have 2 questions that I hope@Don can help clarify:

- You mentioned adding specific niches. This looks like an awesome feature, makes everything much easier to search. Is there any concrete plan/timeline for this, or is it something that isn't on the cards right now?

- You mentioned that one of the flags submitted for the deleted thread was:
"Posting disgusting things to prove a point please remove".

Unlike the rest about rudeness/hostility, this is extremely subjective. In this case, the nature of TS porn was enough to get some people offended; I remember one response in the deleted thread comparing TS content to beastality. I'm pretty sure that scat content or pics with captions suggesting incest will invoke similar feelings of disgust.

My question is, if a flag is submitted for "disgusting content", how does the staff evaluate and decide whether the content should be deleted?

@KeyMasterOfGozer

"Somehow when a penis is attached to a woman's body that is somehow SUPER offensive to the staff. That doesn't make any sense."

I just want to make it very clear here: The staff is not against TS content, in fact we agree that it should be allowed on our site. But it has to be done the right way, slamming everything together unfortunately does not work - this is not an 'opinion', but experience, we tried it.

When we first launched, we originally allowed everything that qualifies under the word 'porn' - but it came evident rather quickly that solution won't work. So we decided to go with the mainstream type of porn initially and add specific niches later on.

EDIT: The situation you described should indeed be considered as a special case and be allowed on the site. We'll try to review each case separately, unfortunately when it comes to reviewing thousands of posts daily, occasionally mistakes do happen.

@WorldsBestPorn

"Clearly, if a mod views the content, and marks it as correct without deleting it, then it is allowed on this site. Which means my GIF was also allowed."

Wrong. People who originally posted the question can still mark answers correct. Until a couple months ago, they could do so without any level limitations, even anonymous users, since the process was session based and not limited to a user account. In addition to that, auto-confirming was allowed in the past as well - meaning if a post received a certain number of confirms it was automatically marked as correct.

Aren't those suspendable offenses? Surely, had I posted hostile, insulting or rude comments to someone in my thread, then I would have been suspended for them, correct? But I wasn't, so that proves my comments were nothing like that, and that those flags were just people lying to get the thread taken down. And besides, as you stated earlier, the reason why it was taken down was due to an "violent/inappropriate" GIF, not any of their comment flags, which proves they were false anyway.

It is true that our moderators didn't find enough basis for a suspension/thread removal when it came to individual flags. But as the complaints from different users over a longer period of time kept coming - in the end it all added up and ultimately lead to the removal of your thread, not just the gif you posted.

I would love to, but I just explained that I uploaded 2 threads which were similar to my original one. Neither contained violent or even she-male images, and yet both were deleted in seconds.

Again, as long as the thread is respectful towards the site, staff members and other users it will not be removed.

I gotta side with@WorldsBestPorn here

@Don

Thank you for your reply. Let me respond to each individual allegation, because there were a lot of them made in your response:

"Posts containing extreme violence are not allowed, just because they have been posted on the site does not mean they are allowed"

I posted no such content. Like I said before, I posted a GIF of a woman being slapped, which was from an already answered post on this site. Clearly, if a mod views the content, and marks it as correct without deleting it, then it is allowed on this site. Which means my GIF was also allowed.

"Here are just some of the flags our users have submitted for your thread:

-Instigating hostility
-insulting others
-rude

Aren't those suspendable offenses? Surely, had I posted hostile, insulting or rude comments to someone in my thread, then I would have been suspended for them, correct? But I wasn't, so that proves my comments were nothing like that, and that those flags were just people lying to get the thread taken down. And besides, as you stated earlier, the reason why it was taken down was due to an "violent/inappropriate" GIF, not any of their comment flags, which proves they were false anyway.

-its not helpful discussion but him telling everyone else what he wants and everyone who disagrees gets downvoted or rude comments.

That flag is another lie. My thread never said I "wanted" anything. It simply asked the question if she-male porn should be allowed. And I have no control over people who don't support she-male porn being on this site being downvoted by someone who does, so how is that a valid flag? For example, I can't flag a thread dedicated to overweight blond women because I don't think it's necessary, or because people in the thread say mean things to me, or vote my comment down.

-posting comment then deleting it to bump his thread

I never did that, and more importantly, there would be no way for them to even know if I did, so how is that a valid flag?

"As for me personally, I just don't see the necessity for the thread. Since staff has already made it's decision regarding the issue and explained it's position on the matter."

It's necessary because at no point have you publicly stated your position on the matter. The only people who knew about it are people who follow this thread, or people who followed mines, which obviously is the overwhelming minority of the users on this site. That's why she-male posts are still continuously posted here.

"But if you feel there's something more to that needs to be discussed on the matter, feel free to make a new thread, as long as it's respectful towards the site, staff members and other users - it will not be removed."

I would love to, but I just explained that I uploaded 2 threads which were similar to my original one. Neither contained violent or even she-male images, and yet both were deleted in seconds. I still haven't received a reason why they were deleted, so I have no clue what to do differently to ensure that they won't be.

@WorldsBestPorn

Posts containing extreme violence are not allowed, just because they have been posted on the site does not mean they are allowed. If you find something that is inappropriate, the right course of action is to flag the post.

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Since it's creation, your thread has received troubling number of flags, most of them not against the TS subject, but in regards to your behavior/attitude and over 20 flags for 'unnecessary bumps'.

Here are just some of the flags our users have submitted for your thread:

- Instigating hostility
- spam bumping his thread
- inappropriate content
- posts shemale content
- Posting disgusting things to prove a point please remove
- inslting others
- rude
- dear staff please delete: its not helpful discussion but him telling everyone else what he wants and everyone who disagrees gets downvoted or rude comments.
- posting comment then deleting it to bump his thread

PS! We don't usually disclose flags, but it might be helpful for you, to know what to do differently next time when starting a discussion on something and to understand why the whole thread was removed.

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As for me personally, I just don't see the necessity for the thread. Since staff has already made it's decision regarding the issue and explained it's position on the matter.

So again: TS content is not allowed for the time being, but will be allowed in future, when our platform has the ability to cater different content categories to different users.

But if you feel there's something more to that needs to be discussed on the matter, feel free to make a new thread, as long as it's respectful towards the site, staff members and other users - it will not be removed.

Thank you@KeyMasterOfGozer

Judging by the majority of replies I received in my now deleted thread, most people seem to feel the same way you do, which is they might not be interested in She-male porn at all, but they aren't offended by she-male posts on here either. But I don't know about you, but seeing a woman get slapped in the face does offend me, and yet that's allowed here.

@Don I have to agree with@WorldsBestPorn here. I have no particular interest in TS porn or penises in general, but there are plenty of penises shown on this site, most of the time attached to a man's body in a woman's face. Somehow when a penis is attached to a woman's body that is somehow SUPER offensive to the staff. That doesn't make any sense.

For instance, there was a post wanting to know the name of an actress in a gif. The gif was short and featured a girl on her knees in a POV shot from someone standing up in front of her. All you can see is the girl's face, shoulders and chest. She's in a french maid outfit. She looks down and the camera pans to a penis that she is obviously about to perform fellatio on.

I had no idea who this girl was, but this situation was intriguing, so I researched it and found that the was a video from a webcam Trap. So I answered the post saying that and as proof I gave link to her webcam channel. The whole thread was deleted shortly after.

I didn't know she was a Trap when I saw the gif, since you can't see her genital area. Probably the poster who posted it didn't know as well. Don't you think this is good information for the person to have? Knowing the actress was a Trap means I'm not interested any longer and I can move on. I see no reason why that should be offensive to anyone.

Information should be free (as in speech).

@Don

Thank you for your reply. I think I've been more than civil on this issue, Don. So your response makes very little sense to me. In regards to why my original thread was deleted, correct, I did post a GIF of a woman being slapped in the face with the caption of:

"THIS kind of thing is allowed on this site, but she-male posts get deleted?"

I assume that's the " violent/inappropriate content" that got my thread deleted, right? Fair enough, I accept that, but even though I find it odd that you could have simply removed the offending GIF post, but you chose to take down the entire thread instead. However, here's the ironic thing. You just proved me 100% right by doing that. Because if it was so violent and inappropriate that my thread just needed to be deleted, then why are GIFS of women being slapped still on this site?

What's the name of this porn actor?

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Answered

And even worse, why are they allowed to be answered? Since my thread featuring the GIF was deleted, then shouldn't that have been deleted too? And what about my two other threads that got deleted in seconds? Neither contained violent/inappropriate content of any sort, Don.

@WorldsBestPorn

The thread in question was removed because of repeated posts containing violent/inappropriate content (By the OP).

Staff has already explained it's position in regards to your question multiple times. If you're not willing to discuss the matter in a civil manner, your posts/threads will be deleted.

@Operator &@Don

Why Were My Threads FALSELY Removed and Why Was I Suspended for Trying to Repost Them?

Last week, my popular thread discussing why She-male related posts are banned from this site was deleted.

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WHY? Threads are for discussions, are they not? It wasn't a she-male post itself, it was simply a thread DISCUSSING why they are banned, so why after 3 MONTHS and THOUSANDS of views was it suddenly removed? She-male posts NEED to be discussed, because they are popular on this site, (and on EVERY porn site), and people are not even being told that their she-male posts will be removed. THAT'S why I made the thread, simply to inform people. So yesterday, I tried to make a similar thread to INFORM people that she-male posts will be deleted, and this one was deleted literally SECONDS after I posted it. There's no way a human could have reported it that quickly, so thinking it was some kind of error, I simply tried to post another thread, and that TOO was deleted seconds after I did. So I assume you guys now have some kind bot that AUTOMATICALLY removes posts with the word she-male (but without the hyphen) in it, correct? That's why it got deleted so fast? Wonderful job not telling ANYONE about it, but still PUNISHING them for it. However, here's the worst part. Mins after my 2nd attempt at posting that thread failed, I was SUSPENDED for "spamming threads". Beautiful. So not only are you guys removing posts without telling people why, but you're now PENALIZING people for trying to post threads that in no way violate your terms of service. Look, I've been here for nearly 4 months. I've helped TONS of people answer their questions, and I was happy to do so. But I'm just about done using this site, because you're secretive rules, regulations and penalties are utter nonsense. I deserve an explanation for what happened to me, because I've done nothing wrong.

@monohorn

You're welcome :)