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i honestly will never understand how this site can tolerate people who post the same answer and even reward them for that. re-posting the same answer should not be rewarded with points. i didnt get points for roughly 30% of my answers, because a few hours, days or even months later, someone re-posted the same answer and got a confirmation, because people dont scroll down to look if the answer was already given. they simply assume that it has not been solved yet and just confirm the first answer they can find. no idea why this site doesnt sort the answers top (oldest) to bottom (newest). this would solve a lot of problems. but in its current state, the point system is totally useless. this site should reward us and motivate us to solve posts. but instead we get punished for being the first ones to post the correct answer. its better to simply wait for someone else to post the answer and re-post it a few days later. the lack of proper automation makes point stealing pretty easy. i also have no idea why we are even allowed to post the same name in the first place. why doesnt the site check if the name you are trying to submit was already posted? it could give us a notification that you cant post the same name and prompt us to confirm the answer instead. i find myself visiting this site less and less for obvious reasons. if things dont change, i will quit using this site for good.
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There were multiple times when someone posted the same answer and tbh it's appalling. Just today this asshole that reposted THE EXACT SAME answer, got points
Anybody even suggesting it's anything but unfair is a moron. I'd spend more time on this site but shit like this is incredibly disencouraging.
The fact that not only it is not being fixed but someone dares to defend this practice is ridiculous.
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AnsweredAnybody even suggesting it's anything but unfair is a moron. I'd spend more time on this site but shit like this is incredibly disencouraging.
The fact that not only it is not being fixed but someone dares to defend this practice is ridiculous.
@wishy I understand what you mean but if someone sees a consistent answer right underneath a short answer at the very top, even though the top one is the oldest one, I'm sure they would look at the one underneath as it clearly has more information.
Personally, I make sure that I read every answer on a thread I'm about post an answer to when I'm about to confirm, so I see every answer's POV on the question asked. I also do like you do, where I suggest data to add to the person who answered correctly but needs more information (and most of the time is the oldest comment on the page).
I believe that the reliability of the information in an answer as well as its accuracy is at upmost importance in this community and I value it a lot; if isn't for that then there is no use to a community like this one. However, it is also really important that the people that answer first and get it right are rewarded before anyone. They take the time to find the relevant information to the question (sometimes posting long threads of information that take a tedious amount of time to gather and post) and pay attention to the post and care so much about it that they would sometimes take hours to find pieces of information to put together and form a valid response.
Personally, I make sure that I read every answer on a thread I'm about post an answer to when I'm about to confirm, so I see every answer's POV on the question asked. I also do like you do, where I suggest data to add to the person who answered correctly but needs more information (and most of the time is the oldest comment on the page).
I believe that the reliability of the information in an answer as well as its accuracy is at upmost importance in this community and I value it a lot; if isn't for that then there is no use to a community like this one. However, it is also really important that the people that answer first and get it right are rewarded before anyone. They take the time to find the relevant information to the question (sometimes posting long threads of information that take a tedious amount of time to gather and post) and pay attention to the post and care so much about it that they would sometimes take hours to find pieces of information to put together and form a valid response.
Honestly, it depends on the answer,
If a member just posted a name and called it a day and then another member posted the name with a bunch of links and images, ill confirm the latter.
However, if someone copies and pastes the answer below him without adding anything new to it, that is truly low, and I agree it must not be rewarded.
FYI, I always look at the bottom first always, If it has enough data then I'll gladly confirm it, if not I'll tag them and suggest they add more data (If they are the only answer).
If a member just posted a name and called it a day and then another member posted the name with a bunch of links and images, ill confirm the latter.
However, if someone copies and pastes the answer below him without adding anything new to it, that is truly low, and I agree it must not be rewarded.
FYI, I always look at the bottom first always, If it has enough data then I'll gladly confirm it, if not I'll tag them and suggest they add more data (If they are the only answer).
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>> I’m tired of all of this, having to argue with a member
who is forcing you? you came up to me.
>> that doesn’t even READ what I wrote
i read everything you wrote, and i replied to almost all of it. there is a lot of text though, so forgive me if i skipped something important.
>> no you’re not making constructive criticism
you are right. im not making constructive criticism. im making very constructive criticism, and give you a lot of ideas for potential solutions. this goes beyond just constructive criticism.
>> you want to radically change basic NTP functionality
nah, just how you decide who gets the points, so that people dont feel cheated when they spend hours solving a post that later gets claimed by someone else.
>> that’s been unaltered for what, 7 years?
see the problem?
>> changing how confirm thread works
this site already provides a frontend that makes the confirm thread obsolete, and its shocking that the confirm thread still exists after all these years. the problem however is the backend, because it lacks the necessary logic to automate the process.
>> On top of that your proposal doesn’t make sense
it does make a lot of sense, once you understand it.
>> you want to turn this site into a Name That FIRST
not quite. i could explain it to you step by step, but you said yourself that it would be a waste of time.
>> you chose the least important one (points aka a gimmick)
points are a core element of this site, and unfortunately the main motivator for many users here. if its just a gimmick, why dont we remove it? lets see how many former high lvl users will continue to help, and how many of them will ragequit.
>> even worse you wanted to confute the current system
i only want to fix the point stealing issue. nothing else.
>> without actually knowing how it works
im sorry for using the report system, instead of posting in a group thread, like in 1995.
>> with inconsistent ideas
very consistent ideas. and the best part is, they dont replace each other, but extend each other. so you could implement all of them, without breaking anything.
>> don’t care that QUALITY is important
quality? do you have any idea how many wrong answers i pointed out in the last couple of years? and you talk about quality? this site is all about quantity, not quality. the person who spams the most will get the points.
>> PROOF is important
most of the answers are reposts, so if you link a ntp thread, you have already provided all the proof you need.
>> TRUSTED LINKS are important
are you talking about stuff like indexxx links? those could be put on the pornstars profile page. that way you wouldnt have to constantly repost them, and the thread would get shorter, which in return would increase the readability and quality of the thread.
>> THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS STEALING ANSWER
there is.
>> if a user doesn’t provide a valid quality answer
thats often not the case. i saw it happen many times before, that both users provided the exact same info (tagged, backed up by proof, with full video etc etc) but the point stealer still got the points. and you know why? because he came in last, and no one bothered to scroll down to check if it has been already answered.
>> didn’t even read in 6 years
reading the help file was the first thing i did, because i wanted to know how to use tags. =)
>> Your system is not feasible, simply not gonna work
it is, and it would. but first you would have to understand it. like i said, i could explain the whole concept in great detail, but it would be a waste of time, because the admins are on a budget. and unfortunately, the admins decided to spend even more time and money into the bottomless pit that is called the confirm thread. as long as this site relies on the confirm thread, the issues will remain.
>> you don’t even read what I write
yep, thats exactly why i keep quoting you.
>> no wonder you’re a level 20 in 6 years
im an opportunist. when i see something i can solve, i do it. when i see something i can confirm, i do it. im definitely not gonna spend all day trying to collect brownie points.
>> And yeah the illusion that those 17 burner users
its 18 now actually.
>> they’re newbies in terms of rules knowledge
or they simply know how to distinguish right from wrong. you think stealing points is hard? every moron can copy+paste a bunch of random shit and get credit for other peoples work. but some people here actually have some decency.
>> Politician? Lmao, do you even read what I said?
i did. and i gave you a compliment. you didnt like it?
>> Never blamed the community
you did. you said i should blame it on the people who confirmed it. then later you said i should blame myself. you blame everything and everyone, but the design that encourages point stealing.
>> Why you can’t blame yourself for that instead?
i should blame myself for a design that encourages point stealing?
>> Too lazy to post in that thread more that once in 11 months
i gave up at some point, because it kept getting ignored. the quality of my threads used to be a lot better too. i was probably the first person (or one of the first) who started adding the exact timestamp of the thumbnail. but sooner or later i was like, whats the point? my answer will get stolen anyway. and you seriously wonder why im not "active enough"? lol.
>> not having the nerve to follow at least the staff thread
why should i? this site is just a site. i dont make money off of it, and im not a moderator. im just a user, like all the other 318500 people. from whom only 286 people follow that thread. so why are you so shocked that i dont follow it, but seem fine with 318214 people not following it?
>> I never said you were active
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>> compared your average activity to the casual NTP member and while you are indeed active
:)
>> in that relation you aren’t objectively active in absolute
yep, i do indeed not spend 24/7 on this site, trying to steal points. that is correct.
>> I’m not a staff member or a mod
why are you even talking to me then?
>> I’m expressing staff’s view
oh god, you are one of those people.
>> in the most objective way possible
in the most subjective way possible. otherwise you would be able to acknowledge the issue.
>> How this can make the site do money?
high lvl users spam threads and steal points, which then discourages low lvl users from participating. if you fix the point stealing issue, more people will be willing to participate. more active users = more solved threads + more new users + more ad revenue.
>> Because we weren’t forced in our houses and spent time more on the laptop and shit
who said i was at home? and even if i was, you think i didnt have anything better to do than to come to this site, when people around me are literally dying? are you really that oblivious?
>> yeah logging in, spend 10 minutes
i usually spend hours. i do have phases though. there are times where i come here very often, and then there are times where i dont.
>> not having a clue about what to do
i usually watch porn and jerk off.
>> You said you replied right after but that’s another blatant LIE: you replied 1 MONTH after
you do realize, that the dates get rounded? if for example he posted on the 31st, and i then posted on the 1st, it will say 12 months ago and 11 months ago, even though its only one day apart. same goes for years. the thread says 4 years ago, not 4 years - 7 months - 15 days - 16 hours. so yes, i did reply right after i logged back in, which was probably within a week or so.
>> without even tagging the dude
you think point stealers care? cute.
>> you didn’t even think he wasn’t following anymore
why dont you blame him for unfollowing? :D
>> design encourages quality answers
it encourages spam and lack of readability.
>> And I meant helping with improving the reporting system
get more mods and read the reports.
>> The option for bs flagging is there to please mad users like you
then dont be surprised if threads like this pop up.
>> slightly wrong answers are a minor thing
slightly? man, i really wish i kept count of how many times i pointed out wrong answers. you would be shocked.
>> What? You just said you don’t give two shit about points, but people earring points is not fair?
i dont care about points, but points stealers do, and i dont want them to get rewarded for stealing other peoples work. is that really so hard for you to understand?
>> I know the website has flaws but you have to turn your head to see which they are
point stealing. thats the only thing i ever complained about.
>> And am being objective since I have more experience than you
actually, its more likely for you to be less objective, because at some point you start to get tunnel vision. i see it at my company all the time, which is why we periodically bring in new people to give us fresh and unbiased input.
>> but then you blame me about my anonymity
im not blaming you. i only speculated why you chose to be anonymous. in my mind you were either a staff member, who didnt want to risk losing his temper and ruin his reputation, or you were a point stealer, who didnt want to out himself for obvious reasons.
>> you can’t object the matter and you object who wrote it
more like point stealer vs. no point stealer. a point stealer will obviously defend the system.
>> is rude towards others
im only rude to blind motherfuckers like him. you have no idea how often i saw people mistake someone because they were asian, or had the same hair style etc. even though they looked nothing alike. and the sad part is, people do actually confirm it, and it often gets accepted. is that the quality you talked about? i could spend months and months on this site, trying to fix other peoples wrong answers.
>> doesn’t provide proof/evidence
with the first girl, i provided her linktr, which has her onlyfans, instagram, twitter, tiktok, and so on. how much more proof do you need? wtf.
with the second girl, i was unable to find a working video at the time, but you are right, i could have added a picture that shows her username in the top left corner.
>> Uses bad tags and can’t use correct formats
the hentai is called Kanojo X Kanojo X Kanojo. unfortunately, you have to use pornstar tags for hentais, because movie tags dont redirect you to a page. and its also not my fault that the correct tag got blocked in the meantime.
>> Doesn’t even answer OP question at all (yeah a full paid video, LMAO)
there was no free video available at the time. i did fully answer his question however. he asked where he can find the video, and i gave him the official link. many people mistake this site for a filesharing site, instead of a knowledge database. fun fact, sharing a link is already considered filesharing in some countries, and could get you into trouble for violating the copyright.
>> your answer got accepted even if was posted after the first one, and got accepted with only 2 confirms
because i wrote the correct answer, and the other guy wrote the wrong answer. whats your point? there are a ton of threads that only have 2 confirmations, and still arent marked as solved. so dont act like this is normal. someone or something must have triggered the auto_moderator to confirm it.
>> basically confusing what you based all your proposal
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>> have the modesty to learn how NTP works
i dont need to learn how to steal points.
>> BYE
see ya
>> I’m tired of all of this, having to argue with a member
who is forcing you? you came up to me.
>> that doesn’t even READ what I wrote
i read everything you wrote, and i replied to almost all of it. there is a lot of text though, so forgive me if i skipped something important.
>> no you’re not making constructive criticism
you are right. im not making constructive criticism. im making very constructive criticism, and give you a lot of ideas for potential solutions. this goes beyond just constructive criticism.
>> you want to radically change basic NTP functionality
nah, just how you decide who gets the points, so that people dont feel cheated when they spend hours solving a post that later gets claimed by someone else.
>> that’s been unaltered for what, 7 years?
see the problem?
>> changing how confirm thread works
this site already provides a frontend that makes the confirm thread obsolete, and its shocking that the confirm thread still exists after all these years. the problem however is the backend, because it lacks the necessary logic to automate the process.
>> On top of that your proposal doesn’t make sense
it does make a lot of sense, once you understand it.
>> you want to turn this site into a Name That FIRST
not quite. i could explain it to you step by step, but you said yourself that it would be a waste of time.
>> you chose the least important one (points aka a gimmick)
points are a core element of this site, and unfortunately the main motivator for many users here. if its just a gimmick, why dont we remove it? lets see how many former high lvl users will continue to help, and how many of them will ragequit.
>> even worse you wanted to confute the current system
i only want to fix the point stealing issue. nothing else.
>> without actually knowing how it works
im sorry for using the report system, instead of posting in a group thread, like in 1995.
>> with inconsistent ideas
very consistent ideas. and the best part is, they dont replace each other, but extend each other. so you could implement all of them, without breaking anything.
>> don’t care that QUALITY is important
quality? do you have any idea how many wrong answers i pointed out in the last couple of years? and you talk about quality? this site is all about quantity, not quality. the person who spams the most will get the points.
>> PROOF is important
most of the answers are reposts, so if you link a ntp thread, you have already provided all the proof you need.
>> TRUSTED LINKS are important
are you talking about stuff like indexxx links? those could be put on the pornstars profile page. that way you wouldnt have to constantly repost them, and the thread would get shorter, which in return would increase the readability and quality of the thread.
>> THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS STEALING ANSWER
there is.
>> if a user doesn’t provide a valid quality answer
thats often not the case. i saw it happen many times before, that both users provided the exact same info (tagged, backed up by proof, with full video etc etc) but the point stealer still got the points. and you know why? because he came in last, and no one bothered to scroll down to check if it has been already answered.
>> didn’t even read in 6 years
reading the help file was the first thing i did, because i wanted to know how to use tags. =)
>> Your system is not feasible, simply not gonna work
it is, and it would. but first you would have to understand it. like i said, i could explain the whole concept in great detail, but it would be a waste of time, because the admins are on a budget. and unfortunately, the admins decided to spend even more time and money into the bottomless pit that is called the confirm thread. as long as this site relies on the confirm thread, the issues will remain.
>> you don’t even read what I write
yep, thats exactly why i keep quoting you.
>> no wonder you’re a level 20 in 6 years
im an opportunist. when i see something i can solve, i do it. when i see something i can confirm, i do it. im definitely not gonna spend all day trying to collect brownie points.
>> And yeah the illusion that those 17 burner users
its 18 now actually.
>> they’re newbies in terms of rules knowledge
or they simply know how to distinguish right from wrong. you think stealing points is hard? every moron can copy+paste a bunch of random shit and get credit for other peoples work. but some people here actually have some decency.
>> Politician? Lmao, do you even read what I said?
i did. and i gave you a compliment. you didnt like it?
>> Never blamed the community
you did. you said i should blame it on the people who confirmed it. then later you said i should blame myself. you blame everything and everyone, but the design that encourages point stealing.
>> Why you can’t blame yourself for that instead?
i should blame myself for a design that encourages point stealing?
>> Too lazy to post in that thread more that once in 11 months
i gave up at some point, because it kept getting ignored. the quality of my threads used to be a lot better too. i was probably the first person (or one of the first) who started adding the exact timestamp of the thumbnail. but sooner or later i was like, whats the point? my answer will get stolen anyway. and you seriously wonder why im not "active enough"? lol.
>> not having the nerve to follow at least the staff thread
why should i? this site is just a site. i dont make money off of it, and im not a moderator. im just a user, like all the other 318500 people. from whom only 286 people follow that thread. so why are you so shocked that i dont follow it, but seem fine with 318214 people not following it?
>> I never said you were active
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>> compared your average activity to the casual NTP member and while you are indeed active
:)
>> in that relation you aren’t objectively active in absolute
yep, i do indeed not spend 24/7 on this site, trying to steal points. that is correct.
>> I’m not a staff member or a mod
why are you even talking to me then?
>> I’m expressing staff’s view
oh god, you are one of those people.
>> in the most objective way possible
in the most subjective way possible. otherwise you would be able to acknowledge the issue.
>> How this can make the site do money?
high lvl users spam threads and steal points, which then discourages low lvl users from participating. if you fix the point stealing issue, more people will be willing to participate. more active users = more solved threads + more new users + more ad revenue.
>> Because we weren’t forced in our houses and spent time more on the laptop and shit
who said i was at home? and even if i was, you think i didnt have anything better to do than to come to this site, when people around me are literally dying? are you really that oblivious?
>> yeah logging in, spend 10 minutes
i usually spend hours. i do have phases though. there are times where i come here very often, and then there are times where i dont.
>> not having a clue about what to do
i usually watch porn and jerk off.
>> You said you replied right after but that’s another blatant LIE: you replied 1 MONTH after
you do realize, that the dates get rounded? if for example he posted on the 31st, and i then posted on the 1st, it will say 12 months ago and 11 months ago, even though its only one day apart. same goes for years. the thread says 4 years ago, not 4 years - 7 months - 15 days - 16 hours. so yes, i did reply right after i logged back in, which was probably within a week or so.
>> without even tagging the dude
you think point stealers care? cute.
>> you didn’t even think he wasn’t following anymore
why dont you blame him for unfollowing? :D
>> design encourages quality answers
it encourages spam and lack of readability.
>> And I meant helping with improving the reporting system
get more mods and read the reports.
>> The option for bs flagging is there to please mad users like you
then dont be surprised if threads like this pop up.
>> slightly wrong answers are a minor thing
slightly? man, i really wish i kept count of how many times i pointed out wrong answers. you would be shocked.
>> What? You just said you don’t give two shit about points, but people earring points is not fair?
i dont care about points, but points stealers do, and i dont want them to get rewarded for stealing other peoples work. is that really so hard for you to understand?
>> I know the website has flaws but you have to turn your head to see which they are
point stealing. thats the only thing i ever complained about.
>> And am being objective since I have more experience than you
actually, its more likely for you to be less objective, because at some point you start to get tunnel vision. i see it at my company all the time, which is why we periodically bring in new people to give us fresh and unbiased input.
>> but then you blame me about my anonymity
im not blaming you. i only speculated why you chose to be anonymous. in my mind you were either a staff member, who didnt want to risk losing his temper and ruin his reputation, or you were a point stealer, who didnt want to out himself for obvious reasons.
>> you can’t object the matter and you object who wrote it
more like point stealer vs. no point stealer. a point stealer will obviously defend the system.
>> is rude towards others
im only rude to blind motherfuckers like him. you have no idea how often i saw people mistake someone because they were asian, or had the same hair style etc. even though they looked nothing alike. and the sad part is, people do actually confirm it, and it often gets accepted. is that the quality you talked about? i could spend months and months on this site, trying to fix other peoples wrong answers.
>> doesn’t provide proof/evidence
with the first girl, i provided her linktr, which has her onlyfans, instagram, twitter, tiktok, and so on. how much more proof do you need? wtf.
with the second girl, i was unable to find a working video at the time, but you are right, i could have added a picture that shows her username in the top left corner.
>> Uses bad tags and can’t use correct formats
the hentai is called Kanojo X Kanojo X Kanojo. unfortunately, you have to use pornstar tags for hentais, because movie tags dont redirect you to a page. and its also not my fault that the correct tag got blocked in the meantime.
>> Doesn’t even answer OP question at all (yeah a full paid video, LMAO)
there was no free video available at the time. i did fully answer his question however. he asked where he can find the video, and i gave him the official link. many people mistake this site for a filesharing site, instead of a knowledge database. fun fact, sharing a link is already considered filesharing in some countries, and could get you into trouble for violating the copyright.
>> your answer got accepted even if was posted after the first one, and got accepted with only 2 confirms
because i wrote the correct answer, and the other guy wrote the wrong answer. whats your point? there are a ton of threads that only have 2 confirmations, and still arent marked as solved. so dont act like this is normal. someone or something must have triggered the auto_moderator to confirm it.
>> basically confusing what you based all your proposal
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>> have the modesty to learn how NTP works
i dont need to learn how to steal points.
>> BYE
see ya
I thought it depends on the user who posted the question which he himself picks the correct answer? I also see some answers not following the rules like to tags on the names so that should clearly not considered a correct answer.
i just have a question, every member trying to steel points and for what?
last month the same member just take my answer for the few links (just click on it and find more vids for that star and copy) and what, five others give him confirmation but not ty my answer even is mine first and more important correct.
for example what happened today - i give answer four years ago to question :"What is the girl with the blond hair", question is that, not video or anything else and have confirmed by one member but that is it, today big point member give some more info which is irrelevant for that but i assume what will happened now, i don't want to put video because question was for blonde girl and my answer is about her
this is the link and member why asked just not want to confirm my answer
last month the same member just take my answer for the few links (just click on it and find more vids for that star and copy) and what, five others give him confirmation but not ty my answer even is mine first and more important correct.
for example what happened today - i give answer four years ago to question :"What is the girl with the blond hair", question is that, not video or anything else and have confirmed by one member but that is it, today big point member give some more info which is irrelevant for that but i assume what will happened now, i don't want to put video because question was for blonde girl and my answer is about her
this is the link and member why asked just not want to confirm my answer
What's the name of this porn star?
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I’m tired of all of this, having to argue with a member that doesn’t even READ what I wrote and the links I provided, no you’re not making constructive criticism, you want to radically change basic NTP functionality that’s been unaltered for what, 7 years? Maybe even more. I SAID ADMINS WONT CHANGE THAT FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT, they’re working on other stuff like reporting system and changing how confirm thread works. THEY’RE ON A BUDGET SO EITHER WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS FOR FREE OR NADA
On top of that your proposal doesn’t make sense, you want to turn this site into a Name That FIRST and it’s bullshit, take your ideas and create another site to compete. I know NTP is far from perfect and there are things to change and fix, but among all of the things you chose the least important one (points aka a gimmick) and even worse you wanted to confute the current system (without actually knowing how it works even if you’re a senior member here, kinda) with inconsistent ideas, I won’t go though all of it because you clearly don’t know or ignore or don’t care that QUALITY is important, PROOF is important, TRUSTED LINKS are important, and hear me out THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS STEALING ANSWER, if a user doesn’t provide a valid quality answer (tagged, backed up by proof, with full video etc etc) it is considered INACEPTABLE (I’m quoting help page I linked below that you, a self proclaimed active user, didn’t even read in 6 years, well done!)
Your system is not feasible, simply not gonna work, and I have a day to explain it to you (it would be wasted time since you don’t even read what I write)
In your limited experience you say things that are the opposite of how things are in reality, no wonder you’re a level 20 in 6 years and I’ll let you believe that, don’t have the time to post a counter check. And yeah the illusion that those 17 burner users liked the post is comforting I know but that’s not enough, they’re newbies in terms of rules knowledge like you and they were mad that people didn’t confirm their poor answer or something like that
Politician? Lmao, do you even read what I said? Never blamed the community not the confirm thread, both are prone to errors. Why you can’t blame yourself for that instead? Too lazy to post in that thread more that once in 11 months or not having the nerve to follow at least the staff thread for news or checking how respectable members confirm, answer. I never said you were active, I compared your average activity to the casual NTP member and while you are indeed active in that relation you aren’t objectively active in absolute
Do the coding so that we can earn money? I’m not a staff member or a mod, I’m expressing staff’s view on this matter and mixing up my experience, in the most objective way possible. How this can make the site do money? By having noobs that don’t provide source for what they say earn more points? To lower the amount of butthurt users like you who get mad at “hijacking” and “stealing” lol and lol
Yeah you didn’t log in because of COVID, what a statement! Because we weren’t forced in our houses and spent time more on the laptop and shit, please... you’re making fun of yourself at this point
Multiple times a week, yeah logging in, spend 10 minutes not having a clue about what to do (low confirms, poor answers, not reading staff thread etc)
You said you replied right after but that’s another blatant LIE: you replied 1 MONTH after ( far from immediate) without even tagging the dude, you didn’t even think he wasn’t following anymore, therefore didn’t get notified
And it’s encouraged by design: design encourages quality answers, not laziness
And I meant helping with improving the reporting system since it’s still in beta and you have time to propose something useful
>>how about you send out a notification to the users, whenever there is something worth mentioning?
That would be smart, first time you actually propose something good
The option for bs flagging is there to please mad users like you, it doesn’t anything because admins are now happy with current system and slightly wrong answers are a minor thing
>> dont want people to get points by reposting the exact same info that i already have
What? You just said you don’t give two shit about points, but people earring points is not fair? You joking right?
I know the website has flaws but you have to turn your head to see which they are, it’s not what you’re looking to. And am being objective since I have more experience than you, even if I was here for less, but then you blame me about my anonymity, instead of reading what I wrote. Typical you can’t object the matter and you object who wrote it
As I said back to the basics, I’m not lecture you again, especially a user who
is rude towards others
doesn’t provide proof/evidence
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Uses bad tags and can’t use correct formats
Doesn’t even answer OP question at all (yeah a full paid video, LMAO)
And I could go on, I just picked the first few answers on your activity page (first page)
Oh and the answer about the webcam girl, your answer got accepted even if was posted after the first one, and got accepted with only 2 confirms basically confusing what you based all your proposal about
That being said
I’m not replying anymore, have the modesty to learn how NTP works, its rules and whatnot. Then we can talk again, until then
BYE
I’m tired of all of this, having to argue with a member that doesn’t even READ what I wrote and the links I provided, no you’re not making constructive criticism, you want to radically change basic NTP functionality that’s been unaltered for what, 7 years? Maybe even more. I SAID ADMINS WONT CHANGE THAT FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT, they’re working on other stuff like reporting system and changing how confirm thread works. THEY’RE ON A BUDGET SO EITHER WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS FOR FREE OR NADA
On top of that your proposal doesn’t make sense, you want to turn this site into a Name That FIRST and it’s bullshit, take your ideas and create another site to compete. I know NTP is far from perfect and there are things to change and fix, but among all of the things you chose the least important one (points aka a gimmick) and even worse you wanted to confute the current system (without actually knowing how it works even if you’re a senior member here, kinda) with inconsistent ideas, I won’t go though all of it because you clearly don’t know or ignore or don’t care that QUALITY is important, PROOF is important, TRUSTED LINKS are important, and hear me out THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS STEALING ANSWER, if a user doesn’t provide a valid quality answer (tagged, backed up by proof, with full video etc etc) it is considered INACEPTABLE (I’m quoting help page I linked below that you, a self proclaimed active user, didn’t even read in 6 years, well done!)
Your system is not feasible, simply not gonna work, and I have a day to explain it to you (it would be wasted time since you don’t even read what I write)
In your limited experience you say things that are the opposite of how things are in reality, no wonder you’re a level 20 in 6 years and I’ll let you believe that, don’t have the time to post a counter check. And yeah the illusion that those 17 burner users liked the post is comforting I know but that’s not enough, they’re newbies in terms of rules knowledge like you and they were mad that people didn’t confirm their poor answer or something like that
Politician? Lmao, do you even read what I said? Never blamed the community not the confirm thread, both are prone to errors. Why you can’t blame yourself for that instead? Too lazy to post in that thread more that once in 11 months or not having the nerve to follow at least the staff thread for news or checking how respectable members confirm, answer. I never said you were active, I compared your average activity to the casual NTP member and while you are indeed active in that relation you aren’t objectively active in absolute
Do the coding so that we can earn money? I’m not a staff member or a mod, I’m expressing staff’s view on this matter and mixing up my experience, in the most objective way possible. How this can make the site do money? By having noobs that don’t provide source for what they say earn more points? To lower the amount of butthurt users like you who get mad at “hijacking” and “stealing” lol and lol
Yeah you didn’t log in because of COVID, what a statement! Because we weren’t forced in our houses and spent time more on the laptop and shit, please... you’re making fun of yourself at this point
Multiple times a week, yeah logging in, spend 10 minutes not having a clue about what to do (low confirms, poor answers, not reading staff thread etc)
You said you replied right after but that’s another blatant LIE: you replied 1 MONTH after ( far from immediate) without even tagging the dude, you didn’t even think he wasn’t following anymore, therefore didn’t get notified
And it’s encouraged by design: design encourages quality answers, not laziness
And I meant helping with improving the reporting system since it’s still in beta and you have time to propose something useful
>>how about you send out a notification to the users, whenever there is something worth mentioning?
That would be smart, first time you actually propose something good
The option for bs flagging is there to please mad users like you, it doesn’t anything because admins are now happy with current system and slightly wrong answers are a minor thing
>> dont want people to get points by reposting the exact same info that i already have
What? You just said you don’t give two shit about points, but people earring points is not fair? You joking right?
I know the website has flaws but you have to turn your head to see which they are, it’s not what you’re looking to. And am being objective since I have more experience than you, even if I was here for less, but then you blame me about my anonymity, instead of reading what I wrote. Typical you can’t object the matter and you object who wrote it
As I said back to the basics, I’m not lecture you again, especially a user who
is rude towards others
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What is name webcam girl?
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Answeredwhat is the full video of this
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AnsweredOh and the answer about the webcam girl, your answer got accepted even if was posted after the first one, and got accepted with only 2 confirms basically confusing what you based all your proposal about
That being said
I’m not replying anymore, have the modesty to learn how NTP works, its rules and whatnot. Then we can talk again, until then
BYE
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>> interesting how you only reply to certain parts of what I said avoiding what you can’t reply to
i can reply to whatever you want. is there anything specific? just let me know.
>> 4 years ago there was not automod (first lie)
i never said there was an auto_moderator 4 years ago. i said the issue of point stealing existed 4 years ago, and still does to this day. so stop making shit up.
>> If it’s so simple do the coding and propose it to admins
how much are you paying?
>> for free obviously
pass.
>> Oh and what you proposed is faulty
how so? pls explain.
>> it completely avoids the need for confirms
it doesnt. it requires it.
>> might as well setting up this automod to automatically solve answers itself using face recognition powered by some advanced next level deep learning
who suggested that?
>> How the automod can know that user 1 is correct
auto_moderator knows User1 is correct, because User3 has the most confirmations with the exact same tag. confirmations should be per tag, and not per comment. i often see 3 people writing the same tag, and each of them gets 1-2 confirmations. but if you count them together, you have enough data to know that the tag is most likely correct.
>> Or that user 2 is wrong
because it has the least amount of confirmations (usually zero).
>> would user 3 that provided proof for what he said be stealing
it would, because he reposted the answer.
>> Answers need to be backed up by trusted links
which is why he should get some points, but not all points. its easy to gather data once someone solved the post. finding out the name is difficult. adding extra links is not. so why should that person get all the points?
>> like the automod can check if the video a user provided is the full one yeah
no one said anything about length.
>> Source for this? You’re prob making that up
your eyes. you see OPs thumbnail, you see the video, and you instantly know whether its right or wrong. names are difficult because you have to prove the identity. videos are easy, because the proof is literally on tape. so videos shouldnt require a lot of confirmations for a post to be marked as solved.
>> second lie of yours
not a lie fam. i see it happen all the time, and the 17 people who upvoted this thread, see it too. are they all lying?
>> This proves you aren’t even active like you claim
its my fault that people dont check the confirm thread, and confirm the threads i posted? ok buddy. first you blame the community, now you blame me lmao. you blame everyone and everything, but the faulty design of this website. you would be a great politician. always shifting the blame, and avoiding responsibility. that was a compliment btw.
>> third lie
what lie? what the hell are you talking about? you literally contradict yourself further down in your own post. lmao.
>> you’re now on a strike too
try again. everything i said can be backed up by my activity feed and threads.
>> 1-2 confirms ARE enough for an answer to be accepted
haha sure. why isnt the auto_moderator doing its job then? instead, it takes years, and by that time there are 3 people with the same tag, and a split vote. like i said earlier, if you count the votes together, you know which tag is most likely correct.
>> I never said it’s related, but his answer got confirms because his link was up
no, his answer got accepted because he had 2 confirmations. i said it many times before, and i will say it again. the vast majority of people doesnt scroll down to check if someone already answered it correctly. thats the downside of sorting the comments from newest to oldest. ever wondered why every forum sorts from oldest to newest? now you know.
>> he chose a reliable link
there is no such thing in the IT industry. every website could stop working at any moment, due to a gazillion reasons.
>> do the improvement on your own
you want me to do the coding so you guys can make more money? pass. i already gave you free feedback. this is where my generosity ends.
>> No I suggested to use mirrors
i do when possible. but even if i provide 3 links, they all can break due to copyright claims. this happens especially often with JAV porn. you know whats more important than the video though? the actual name of the video. so even if the links break, people can easily find a replacement.
>> An OP that logs once in a while (like you do)
you mean multiple times per week? i do admit that there was a period where i didnt log in as often, due to a thing called covid. dunno if you ever heard about it.
>> will see your answer has a dead link
doesnt matter. the name of the pornstar, and the name of the video are still there. those are the most important parts. everything else is just a bonus.
>> You said it’s crazy to keep track of answers with dead links but you proved that that’s exactly what you do
only when my post gets bumped with a point stealing attempt.
>> See above, and no OP do care
they dont. if OP wants the name, he wants the name. if OP wants the video, he wants the video. everything else is unnecessary. once you have the name of the pornstar or video, its easy to find additional information.
>> No the other person provided a working link that it’s been up since
again, his answer got accepted because he had 2 confirmations, and no one bothered to check if someone answered it before. the link was working for at least 11 months, so its a stretch to blame it on a broken link now.
>> Not blaming the automod because it’s not his fault
agree to disagree.
>> You didn’t notify him nor who accepted it
did you even look at the thread? i literally replied right after, and said that im already aware of the blowjob video, and that i even mentioned it in the thread description. so no, the thread shouldnt have been marked as solved, because my question never got answered.
>> I checked your feed and saw you barely
a lot of threads are still pending, due to a faulty auto_moderator and people who only confirm the newest answers, which in the end causes a split vote.
>> more than the average ntp but that’s not an accomplishment
so i am active? cool. glad we established that once and for all. :)
>> no need to steal points, that’s frowned upon
nah, its encouraged by design.
>> but there are no rules against it
maybe there should be. ever thought about that?
>> why not helping with reporting function since you wanna help?
what do you mean? i used it a ton of times, and nothing ever happened, except of when i reported illegal content. so how do you want me to help?
>> Uhm being active ig
you want me to constantly check if there are new feature updates? how about you send out a notification to the users, whenever there is something worth mentioning? people come here to look for porn, not to check the changelog of this website.
>> reporting is basically for illegal/immoral shit, useless for the rest
i know that now, but there are still options for reporting bullshit etc. how should i know that its not working? if those options werent available, i would have looked for a thread. but you offer those options, and then blame people for using them? are you serious?
>> rage against staling points and hijacking
i dont give two shits about points. what i do give a shit about is, people who try to take credit for other peoples work. doesnt matter if its my post, or other peoples posts.
>> Nice to see you rushed to accept old questions with pending answers to avoid getting penalties in the future
yep, i closed two of my threads because they are most likely unsolvable, and i dont want people to get points by reposting the exact same info that i already have, and even mentioned in the description of the thread. i simply took a precaution because of a faulty system.
>> I didn’t wanna lecture you
actually, im the one lecturing you. im showcasing you the flaws of this website, and you keep saying its by design. ever stopped and thought that the design might be the issue? i think you are way too deep into this, which is why you cant see anything wrong with this website. you are unable to judge things objectively anymore, and might even let your ego get the best of you at some point. thats probably why you decided to post anonymously. wouldnt want to ruin your good reputation, eh?
threads like this are very important for a company, because they contain a lot of constructive criticism and potential solutions. whether the team wants to listen is another story. i did my part however.
>> interesting how you only reply to certain parts of what I said avoiding what you can’t reply to
i can reply to whatever you want. is there anything specific? just let me know.
>> 4 years ago there was not automod (first lie)
i never said there was an auto_moderator 4 years ago. i said the issue of point stealing existed 4 years ago, and still does to this day. so stop making shit up.
>> If it’s so simple do the coding and propose it to admins
how much are you paying?
>> for free obviously
pass.
>> Oh and what you proposed is faulty
how so? pls explain.
>> it completely avoids the need for confirms
it doesnt. it requires it.
>> might as well setting up this automod to automatically solve answers itself using face recognition powered by some advanced next level deep learning
who suggested that?
>> How the automod can know that user 1 is correct
auto_moderator knows User1 is correct, because User3 has the most confirmations with the exact same tag. confirmations should be per tag, and not per comment. i often see 3 people writing the same tag, and each of them gets 1-2 confirmations. but if you count them together, you have enough data to know that the tag is most likely correct.
>> Or that user 2 is wrong
because it has the least amount of confirmations (usually zero).
>> would user 3 that provided proof for what he said be stealing
it would, because he reposted the answer.
>> Answers need to be backed up by trusted links
which is why he should get some points, but not all points. its easy to gather data once someone solved the post. finding out the name is difficult. adding extra links is not. so why should that person get all the points?
>> like the automod can check if the video a user provided is the full one yeah
no one said anything about length.
>> Source for this? You’re prob making that up
your eyes. you see OPs thumbnail, you see the video, and you instantly know whether its right or wrong. names are difficult because you have to prove the identity. videos are easy, because the proof is literally on tape. so videos shouldnt require a lot of confirmations for a post to be marked as solved.
>> second lie of yours
not a lie fam. i see it happen all the time, and the 17 people who upvoted this thread, see it too. are they all lying?
>> This proves you aren’t even active like you claim
its my fault that people dont check the confirm thread, and confirm the threads i posted? ok buddy. first you blame the community, now you blame me lmao. you blame everyone and everything, but the faulty design of this website. you would be a great politician. always shifting the blame, and avoiding responsibility. that was a compliment btw.
>> third lie
what lie? what the hell are you talking about? you literally contradict yourself further down in your own post. lmao.
>> you’re now on a strike too
try again. everything i said can be backed up by my activity feed and threads.
>> 1-2 confirms ARE enough for an answer to be accepted
haha sure. why isnt the auto_moderator doing its job then? instead, it takes years, and by that time there are 3 people with the same tag, and a split vote. like i said earlier, if you count the votes together, you know which tag is most likely correct.
>> I never said it’s related, but his answer got confirms because his link was up
no, his answer got accepted because he had 2 confirmations. i said it many times before, and i will say it again. the vast majority of people doesnt scroll down to check if someone already answered it correctly. thats the downside of sorting the comments from newest to oldest. ever wondered why every forum sorts from oldest to newest? now you know.
>> he chose a reliable link
there is no such thing in the IT industry. every website could stop working at any moment, due to a gazillion reasons.
>> do the improvement on your own
you want me to do the coding so you guys can make more money? pass. i already gave you free feedback. this is where my generosity ends.
>> No I suggested to use mirrors
i do when possible. but even if i provide 3 links, they all can break due to copyright claims. this happens especially often with JAV porn. you know whats more important than the video though? the actual name of the video. so even if the links break, people can easily find a replacement.
>> An OP that logs once in a while (like you do)
you mean multiple times per week? i do admit that there was a period where i didnt log in as often, due to a thing called covid. dunno if you ever heard about it.
>> will see your answer has a dead link
doesnt matter. the name of the pornstar, and the name of the video are still there. those are the most important parts. everything else is just a bonus.
>> You said it’s crazy to keep track of answers with dead links but you proved that that’s exactly what you do
only when my post gets bumped with a point stealing attempt.
>> See above, and no OP do care
they dont. if OP wants the name, he wants the name. if OP wants the video, he wants the video. everything else is unnecessary. once you have the name of the pornstar or video, its easy to find additional information.
>> No the other person provided a working link that it’s been up since
again, his answer got accepted because he had 2 confirmations, and no one bothered to check if someone answered it before. the link was working for at least 11 months, so its a stretch to blame it on a broken link now.
>> Not blaming the automod because it’s not his fault
agree to disagree.
>> You didn’t notify him nor who accepted it
did you even look at the thread? i literally replied right after, and said that im already aware of the blowjob video, and that i even mentioned it in the thread description. so no, the thread shouldnt have been marked as solved, because my question never got answered.
>> I checked your feed and saw you barely
a lot of threads are still pending, due to a faulty auto_moderator and people who only confirm the newest answers, which in the end causes a split vote.
>> more than the average ntp but that’s not an accomplishment
so i am active? cool. glad we established that once and for all. :)
>> no need to steal points, that’s frowned upon
nah, its encouraged by design.
>> but there are no rules against it
maybe there should be. ever thought about that?
>> why not helping with reporting function since you wanna help?
what do you mean? i used it a ton of times, and nothing ever happened, except of when i reported illegal content. so how do you want me to help?
>> Uhm being active ig
you want me to constantly check if there are new feature updates? how about you send out a notification to the users, whenever there is something worth mentioning? people come here to look for porn, not to check the changelog of this website.
>> reporting is basically for illegal/immoral shit, useless for the rest
i know that now, but there are still options for reporting bullshit etc. how should i know that its not working? if those options werent available, i would have looked for a thread. but you offer those options, and then blame people for using them? are you serious?
>> rage against staling points and hijacking
i dont give two shits about points. what i do give a shit about is, people who try to take credit for other peoples work. doesnt matter if its my post, or other peoples posts.
>> Nice to see you rushed to accept old questions with pending answers to avoid getting penalties in the future
yep, i closed two of my threads because they are most likely unsolvable, and i dont want people to get points by reposting the exact same info that i already have, and even mentioned in the description of the thread. i simply took a precaution because of a faulty system.
>> I didn’t wanna lecture you
actually, im the one lecturing you. im showcasing you the flaws of this website, and you keep saying its by design. ever stopped and thought that the design might be the issue? i think you are way too deep into this, which is why you cant see anything wrong with this website. you are unable to judge things objectively anymore, and might even let your ego get the best of you at some point. thats probably why you decided to post anonymously. wouldnt want to ruin your good reputation, eh?
threads like this are very important for a company, because they contain a lot of constructive criticism and potential solutions. whether the team wants to listen is another story. i did my part however.
@xjunox interesting how you only reply to certain parts of what I said avoiding what you can’t reply to
>> which is exactly why i created this thread 4 years ago
4 years ago there was not automod (first lie)
>> what i proposed is actually very simple
If it’s so simple do the coding and propose it to admins (for free obviously because, since you’re active you know, they’re on a budget)
Oh and what you proposed is faulty, it completely avoids the need for confirms, might as well setting up this automod to automatically solve answers itself using face recognition powered by some advanced next level deep learning, dude that’s sci fi lol
How the automod can know that user 1 is correct? Or that user 2 is wrong? And why the hell would user 3 that provided proof for what he said be stealing? Answers need to be backed up by trusted links, performers info, video etc (what you ironically call useless it’s actually precious and much needed)
Yeah sure you can check that video’s available OF course, like the automod can check if the video a user provided is the full one yeah
>> videos are much much easier to prove than names
Source for this? You’re prob making that up
>>you must be living under a rock then, because i see it happen all the time
No, it’s actually what I said, if you bother to spend some time you’ll realize it (second lie of yours)
>> like i said, stuff that i posted in the confirm thread 11 months ago, still hasnt been solved. i never got more than 1-2 confirmations (if at all) whenever i posted in the confirm thread. and 1-2 confirmations are nowhere near enough to solve a post
This proves you aren’t even active like you claim to be(third lie, you’re now on a strike too man :) you posted in the confirm thread once for that 11 months old answer and you expect to get confirms for it? Wake up like cmon, and yeah 1-2 confirms ARE enough for an answer to be accepted, it’s not only how many answers but the quality of the confirmers (you don’t know that because you have only few confirms, take irestoff or katflying as examples)
>>what does this have to do with mirrors? he didnt provide a mirror either, and that his link is still working is pure luck. nothing more
I never said it’s related, but his answer got confirms because his link was up, and no pure luck he chose a reliable link
>> complain? you mean giving constructive criticism free of charge
Ok let’s call it like that, criticism, that doesn’t change what I said: do the improvement on your own
>> are you seriously suggesting that we should keep track of all our posts for x years, until they finally get solved? whenever someone tries to steal my points, i do check and update my post. but guess what, often the points get stolen anyway
No I suggested to use mirrors or don’t get upset if your answer isn’t accepted/confirmed for it. An OP that logs once in a while (like you do) will see your answer has a dead link even if it was ok back then. You said it’s crazy to keep track of answers with dead links but you proved that that’s exactly what you do
>> this site gives you an option between name and video. and when OP asks for a name, the name is what counts. no one cares about a dead link to some useless information no one asked about
See above, and no OP do care. Get the basics right man
>> a video probably doesnt exist. the other person provided the exact same info as me, but got the points
No the other person provided a working link that it’s been up since
Not blaming the automod because it’s not his fault, and I said the second post your answer was fine, but got no confirms (I could have confirmed it) probably because you didn’t post it in confirm thread
>> that happened once, and only because i thought that i asked for the video and name, which is why i didnt close the thread. but apparently i only asked for the video. so yes, i should have closed that one
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>>”had help”
You didn’t notify him nor who accepted it, and you posted even 1 month after
>> anyone can check my activity feed and see that you are making shit up
I checked your feed and saw you barely
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And yeah you log in rarely, more than the average ntp but that’s not an accomplishment is it?
>>you mean by hijacking threads and stealing points? ok got it
No I mean by USING it, no need to steal points, that’s frowned upon but there are no rules against it...
>> good to know
You would have know if you don’t log once in a blue moon, why not helping with reporting function since you wanna help?
>> thats what the report function is for. how should i know that its not working
Uhm being active ig?? And no reporting is basically for illegal/immoral shit, useless for the rest
>> i think you mistake "being active" with "spending all day on this website and pressing F5"
No I think you mistake being active by “logging once every week” and rage against staling points and hijacking. You can log in one day per week and spend the entire day on the site or log in every day and spend a couple hours of your free time, your choice
Nice to see you rushed to accept old questions with pending answers to avoid getting penalties in the future
I didn’t wanna lecture you but you seem in desperate need so, as I said back to the basics
https://namethatporn.com/help.html#answering
>> which is exactly why i created this thread 4 years ago
4 years ago there was not automod (first lie)
>> what i proposed is actually very simple
If it’s so simple do the coding and propose it to admins (for free obviously because, since you’re active you know, they’re on a budget)
Oh and what you proposed is faulty, it completely avoids the need for confirms, might as well setting up this automod to automatically solve answers itself using face recognition powered by some advanced next level deep learning, dude that’s sci fi lol
How the automod can know that user 1 is correct? Or that user 2 is wrong? And why the hell would user 3 that provided proof for what he said be stealing? Answers need to be backed up by trusted links, performers info, video etc (what you ironically call useless it’s actually precious and much needed)
Yeah sure you can check that video’s available OF course, like the automod can check if the video a user provided is the full one yeah
>> videos are much much easier to prove than names
Source for this? You’re prob making that up
>>you must be living under a rock then, because i see it happen all the time
No, it’s actually what I said, if you bother to spend some time you’ll realize it (second lie of yours)
>> like i said, stuff that i posted in the confirm thread 11 months ago, still hasnt been solved. i never got more than 1-2 confirmations (if at all) whenever i posted in the confirm thread. and 1-2 confirmations are nowhere near enough to solve a post
This proves you aren’t even active like you claim to be(third lie, you’re now on a strike too man :) you posted in the confirm thread once for that 11 months old answer and you expect to get confirms for it? Wake up like cmon, and yeah 1-2 confirms ARE enough for an answer to be accepted, it’s not only how many answers but the quality of the confirmers (you don’t know that because you have only few confirms, take irestoff or katflying as examples)
>>what does this have to do with mirrors? he didnt provide a mirror either, and that his link is still working is pure luck. nothing more
I never said it’s related, but his answer got confirms because his link was up, and no pure luck he chose a reliable link
>> complain? you mean giving constructive criticism free of charge
Ok let’s call it like that, criticism, that doesn’t change what I said: do the improvement on your own
>> are you seriously suggesting that we should keep track of all our posts for x years, until they finally get solved? whenever someone tries to steal my points, i do check and update my post. but guess what, often the points get stolen anyway
No I suggested to use mirrors or don’t get upset if your answer isn’t accepted/confirmed for it. An OP that logs once in a while (like you do) will see your answer has a dead link even if it was ok back then. You said it’s crazy to keep track of answers with dead links but you proved that that’s exactly what you do
>> this site gives you an option between name and video. and when OP asks for a name, the name is what counts. no one cares about a dead link to some useless information no one asked about
See above, and no OP do care. Get the basics right man
>> a video probably doesnt exist. the other person provided the exact same info as me, but got the points
No the other person provided a working link that it’s been up since
Not blaming the automod because it’s not his fault, and I said the second post your answer was fine, but got no confirms (I could have confirmed it) probably because you didn’t post it in confirm thread
>> that happened once, and only because i thought that i asked for the video and name, which is why i didnt close the thread. but apparently i only asked for the video. so yes, i should have closed that one
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>>”had help”
You didn’t notify him nor who accepted it, and you posted even 1 month after
>> anyone can check my activity feed and see that you are making shit up
I checked your feed and saw you barely
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And yeah you log in rarely, more than the average ntp but that’s not an accomplishment is it?
>>you mean by hijacking threads and stealing points? ok got it
No I mean by USING it, no need to steal points, that’s frowned upon but there are no rules against it...
>> good to know
You would have know if you don’t log once in a blue moon, why not helping with reporting function since you wanna help?
>> thats what the report function is for. how should i know that its not working
Uhm being active ig?? And no reporting is basically for illegal/immoral shit, useless for the rest
>> i think you mistake "being active" with "spending all day on this website and pressing F5"
No I think you mistake being active by “logging once every week” and rage against staling points and hijacking. You can log in one day per week and spend the entire day on the site or log in every day and spend a couple hours of your free time, your choice
Nice to see you rushed to accept old questions with pending answers to avoid getting penalties in the future
I didn’t wanna lecture you but you seem in desperate need so, as I said back to the basics
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>> admins wanted it to work like that
which is exactly why i created this thread 4 years ago. it showed time and time again that the point system is getting abused, and that it needs to be fixed.
>> Automod can't just choose the first answer
what i proposed is actually very simple.
if OP is asking for a name:
User3: Jenna Jameson with a bunch of useless information
User2: Silvia Saint wrong answer
User1: Jenna Jameson
User3 will get the most confirmations. now the auto_moderator should check who wrote Jenna Jameson first, and reward User1 the points, since he answered it first. User3 should get a few points for triggering the confirmation, and providing a bunch of useless information no one asked.
and as for videos, well, with supported sites/players, it is possible to check if the video is available. but there are too many unsupported sites/players out there. so its probably best to simply lower the required amount of confirmations for videos. i mean, videos are much much easier to prove than names, so they shouldnt require as many confirmations.
>> no people won't just confirm the newest answer
you must be living under a rock then, because i see it happen all the time.
>> post the answer in the confirm thread like everyone else does
like i said, stuff that i posted in the confirm thread 11 months ago, still hasnt been solved. i never got more than 1-2 confirmations (if at all) whenever i posted in the confirm thread. and 1-2 confirmations are nowhere near enough to solve a post.
>> notice how the link that game provided is still working
what does this have to do with mirrors? he didnt provide a mirror either, and that his link is still working is pure luck. nothing more.
>> Automod does NOT pick an answer without any confirms
see my proposal above.
>> it's easy to complain but not as easy come up with solutions uh?
complain? you mean giving constructive criticism free of charge. i have given you many ideas on how to tackle those issues, but you refuse to listen. so no, its not hard for an experienced coder to come up with a solution for a software problem. but first you would have to admit to yourself that there is a problem. and thats something a lot of coders struggle with.
>> dead links broke yeah provide another one or get ready for another one to steal your answer
are you seriously suggesting that we should keep track of all our posts for x years, until they finally get solved? whenever someone tries to steal my points, i do check and update my post. but guess what, often the points get stolen anyway.
>> you're in a site called name THAT PORN
this site gives you an option between name and video. and when OP asks for a name, the name is what counts. no one cares about a dead link to some useless information no one asked about.
>> Oh and the question was really more about the video
in the first post, a video probably doesnt exist. the other person provided the exact same info as me, but got the points. yet you still try to come up with creative ways to justify the auto_moderator.
in the second post, no one posted a video. everyone posted just the name. there is only 1 video of her anyway. and here you also try to shift the blame on me and the rest of the community, instead of the auto_moderator.
>> Lots of "didnt bother to accept answer"/"had help for selecting correct answer"
about the "didnt bother", why are you lying? that happened once, and only because i thought that i asked for the video and name, which is why i didnt close the thread. but apparently i only asked for the video. so yes, i should have closed that one.
about the "had help", thats another lie, and also happened only once. i said that her name is Ember from TryTeens/TeenCoreClub, and that i already know about the blowjob video and picture set. what i wanted though was the video where she gets fucked. some guy then posted the blowjob video, and got the points. he never provided the video that i wanted, so why should i close the thread? that thread should have never been marked as solved, because no one was able to find the full video of her getting fucked. i even posted a link to the promo clips to show that the video actually exists.
>> logs in once every 4 months
another lie. thats 3 strikes my dude. anyone can check my activity feed and see that you are making shit up.
>> stop making excuses and start using it like everyone else
you mean by hijacking threads and stealing points? ok got it.
>> report function (the new one) is still in beta and improving
good to know.
>> would have known where to post it
thats what the report function is for. how should i know that its not working?
>> strange for a user who claims to be active, innit
i think you mistake "being active" with "spending all day on this website and pressing F5".
>> admins wanted it to work like that
which is exactly why i created this thread 4 years ago. it showed time and time again that the point system is getting abused, and that it needs to be fixed.
>> Automod can't just choose the first answer
what i proposed is actually very simple.
if OP is asking for a name:
User3: Jenna Jameson with a bunch of useless information
User2: Silvia Saint wrong answer
User1: Jenna Jameson
User3 will get the most confirmations. now the auto_moderator should check who wrote Jenna Jameson first, and reward User1 the points, since he answered it first. User3 should get a few points for triggering the confirmation, and providing a bunch of useless information no one asked.
and as for videos, well, with supported sites/players, it is possible to check if the video is available. but there are too many unsupported sites/players out there. so its probably best to simply lower the required amount of confirmations for videos. i mean, videos are much much easier to prove than names, so they shouldnt require as many confirmations.
>> no people won't just confirm the newest answer
you must be living under a rock then, because i see it happen all the time.
>> post the answer in the confirm thread like everyone else does
like i said, stuff that i posted in the confirm thread 11 months ago, still hasnt been solved. i never got more than 1-2 confirmations (if at all) whenever i posted in the confirm thread. and 1-2 confirmations are nowhere near enough to solve a post.
>> notice how the link that game provided is still working
what does this have to do with mirrors? he didnt provide a mirror either, and that his link is still working is pure luck. nothing more.
>> Automod does NOT pick an answer without any confirms
see my proposal above.
>> it's easy to complain but not as easy come up with solutions uh?
complain? you mean giving constructive criticism free of charge. i have given you many ideas on how to tackle those issues, but you refuse to listen. so no, its not hard for an experienced coder to come up with a solution for a software problem. but first you would have to admit to yourself that there is a problem. and thats something a lot of coders struggle with.
>> dead links broke yeah provide another one or get ready for another one to steal your answer
are you seriously suggesting that we should keep track of all our posts for x years, until they finally get solved? whenever someone tries to steal my points, i do check and update my post. but guess what, often the points get stolen anyway.
>> you're in a site called name THAT PORN
this site gives you an option between name and video. and when OP asks for a name, the name is what counts. no one cares about a dead link to some useless information no one asked about.
>> Oh and the question was really more about the video
in the first post, a video probably doesnt exist. the other person provided the exact same info as me, but got the points. yet you still try to come up with creative ways to justify the auto_moderator.
in the second post, no one posted a video. everyone posted just the name. there is only 1 video of her anyway. and here you also try to shift the blame on me and the rest of the community, instead of the auto_moderator.
>> Lots of "didnt bother to accept answer"/"had help for selecting correct answer"
about the "didnt bother", why are you lying? that happened once, and only because i thought that i asked for the video and name, which is why i didnt close the thread. but apparently i only asked for the video. so yes, i should have closed that one.
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Answeredabout the "had help", thats another lie, and also happened only once. i said that her name is Ember from TryTeens/TeenCoreClub, and that i already know about the blowjob video and picture set. what i wanted though was the video where she gets fucked. some guy then posted the blowjob video, and got the points. he never provided the video that i wanted, so why should i close the thread? that thread should have never been marked as solved, because no one was able to find the full video of her getting fucked. i even posted a link to the promo clips to show that the video actually exists.
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Answered>> logs in once every 4 months
another lie. thats 3 strikes my dude. anyone can check my activity feed and see that you are making shit up.
>> stop making excuses and start using it like everyone else
you mean by hijacking threads and stealing points? ok got it.
>> report function (the new one) is still in beta and improving
good to know.
>> would have known where to post it
thats what the report function is for. how should i know that its not working?
>> strange for a user who claims to be active, innit
i think you mistake "being active" with "spending all day on this website and pressing F5".
@xjunox admins wanted it to work like that and it worked like it was supposed to, period. Automod can't just choose the first answer nor check if videos are dead or other things we humans can do, again blame it one the people who are lazy/blind/only care about points. And no people won't just confirm the newest answer, I know for experience that there are many variables that come into play when people choose what to confirm. Keep in mind that the quality of the answer is a factor that has to be considered, your link was working 11 months ago? ok fine, post the answer in the confirm thread like everyone else does, and yeah chances are that your video could have broken 1 after or 3 months after, doesnt matter, first lesson: always provide mirrors duh (notice how the link that game provided is still working)
Automod does NOT pick an answer without any confirms, it's not designed this way nor it can't be otherwise, apply for a programmer if you think you can solve this issue and write a better bot, it's easy to complain but not as easy come up with solutions uh? im not justifying anyone, but you are here since 6 years and you should know that, dead links broke yeah provide another one or get ready for another one to steal your answer, everyone does it and doesnt make a huge ass thread to complain. "What's important is pornstar name"---> really? lmao, you're in a site called name THAT PORN, if you don't think so, go to name THAT PORNSTAR then. Oh and the question was really more about the video
confirmation thread is useless? Or you're too lazy to rank up and be active enough? Lots of "didnt bother to accept answer"/"had help for selecting correct answer" in your activity feed, be active and things will improve ask to any newbie who got to level 50 in a single month without feeling the need to complain when he logs in once every 4 months
There are members who regulary post there and withiut it they wouldnt be where they are now, stop making excuses and start using it like everyone else
report function (the new one) is still in beta and improving, things get checked the more people report it (and they are), for further info check the staff thread. if you really were that interested in correcting that wrong answer you 1. would have known where to post it 2.You would have done it but guess what? you didn't strange for a user who claims to be active, innit?
Automod does NOT pick an answer without any confirms, it's not designed this way nor it can't be otherwise, apply for a programmer if you think you can solve this issue and write a better bot, it's easy to complain but not as easy come up with solutions uh? im not justifying anyone, but you are here since 6 years and you should know that, dead links broke yeah provide another one or get ready for another one to steal your answer, everyone does it and doesnt make a huge ass thread to complain. "What's important is pornstar name"---> really? lmao, you're in a site called name THAT PORN, if you don't think so, go to name THAT PORNSTAR then. Oh and the question was really more about the video
confirmation thread is useless? Or you're too lazy to rank up and be active enough? Lots of "didnt bother to accept answer"/"had help for selecting correct answer" in your activity feed, be active and things will improve ask to any newbie who got to level 50 in a single month without feeling the need to complain when he logs in once every 4 months
There are members who regulary post there and withiut it they wouldnt be where they are now, stop making excuses and start using it like everyone else
report function (the new one) is still in beta and improving, things get checked the more people report it (and they are), for further info check the staff thread. if you really were that interested in correcting that wrong answer you 1. would have known where to post it 2.You would have done it but guess what? you didn't strange for a user who claims to be active, innit?
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about the first post, its hard to blame the community for a faulty design. people will always confirm the newest answer, and wont waste time checking if someone already gave the correct answer further below. thats exactly what i was complaining about in this thread. the auto_moderator decided that the answer is correct, so it should have picked the oldest answer, instead of rewarding point stealers. by the time i wrote that answer, the link was obviously working. how exactly do you know my link wasnt working 6 months ago? my link was still working when i reposted my answer 11 months ago, so there was at least 1 year time to accept it. is that not enough time for the auto_moderator to solve a post? whats important is the pornstar name. links are just additional data that could expire at any moment. so blaming this on a broken link, sounds like an excuse to justify a poorly written bot.
about the second post, its the auto_moderators job to solve a post when OP refuses to solve it, or forgets to solve it. i dont remember if i posted in the confirmation thread 2 years ago, but the confirmation thread is kinda useless to be honest, and shouldnt even be necessary with a proper bot. stuff that i posted in the confirmation thread 11 months ago, still hasnt been solved to this day. and yes, i am active. dunno what that has to do with the lack of structure and moderation on this site though.
about the report, ok so the report function is completely useless. understood.
about the first post, its hard to blame the community for a faulty design. people will always confirm the newest answer, and wont waste time checking if someone already gave the correct answer further below. thats exactly what i was complaining about in this thread. the auto_moderator decided that the answer is correct, so it should have picked the oldest answer, instead of rewarding point stealers. by the time i wrote that answer, the link was obviously working. how exactly do you know my link wasnt working 6 months ago? my link was still working when i reposted my answer 11 months ago, so there was at least 1 year time to accept it. is that not enough time for the auto_moderator to solve a post? whats important is the pornstar name. links are just additional data that could expire at any moment. so blaming this on a broken link, sounds like an excuse to justify a poorly written bot.
about the second post, its the auto_moderators job to solve a post when OP refuses to solve it, or forgets to solve it. i dont remember if i posted in the confirmation thread 2 years ago, but the confirmation thread is kinda useless to be honest, and shouldnt even be necessary with a proper bot. stuff that i posted in the confirmation thread 11 months ago, still hasnt been solved to this day. and yes, i am active. dunno what that has to do with the lack of structure and moderation on this site though.
about the report, ok so the report function is completely useless. understood.
@xjunox there are mods but don't come here that often, for the first two post, automod didn't make any mistakes, it worked as expected, it pickup up the answer with most confirms/from valuable confirmers, blame it on the people who confirmed, in the first answer your link was dead when the other answer was accepted, so it makes sense to me why it didn't got any confirms. For the other yours could have gotten confirms but it didn't, but again it's NOT automod fault for it, it's up to the confirmers to check and choose the best answer. Did you put your answers in confirm thread 2 years ago? Are you active enough? Don't blame others for stealing answers when you log in once in a blue moon.
Regarding the last girl, the answer is factually wrong (different girl) so it's not enough to report it, post it here instead and follow the instructions (you have to answer and provide proof it's not that girl but the one you said)
Regarding the last girl, the answer is factually wrong (different girl) so it's not enough to report it, post it here instead and follow the instructions (you have to answer and provide proof it's not that girl but the one you said)
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didnt want to create a new thread, so im gonna ask here instead. can you please explain why the auto_moderator didnt accept my answers?
Auto.msg.: ntp.so/ - dead link
btw the report bullshit option is useless, because the reports are ignored by the moderators. does this site even have moderators? i reported this clearly wrong answer multiple times in the past 2 years, but it never got fixed.
didnt want to create a new thread, so im gonna ask here instead. can you please explain why the auto_moderator didnt accept my answers?
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AnsweredHere are some things i noticed and some suggestions or idea to make site more interesting.
I guess it all depends on what direction you want this site to go in and is it mainly just to
identify pornstars/models.
The thing i would love to see is more ways to get points besides answering post first.
If the main reason for this site is only to identify people then i can see where this probably
won't be viable. On the other hand, this could encourage people to contribute more to certain posts they like for example someone provided more usefull links to full videos or higher quality video streams and the OP liked them. Then the OP or another user that found them and liked them could reward the poster with a +25 or a +50 for a high quality link. You could call it a gold link/share or whatever you like. There are sometimes i solve a question but i take longer to solve it because i look for the best sources for it and by the time i'm done it is already solved, so i just abandon it. There could be issues with this though because people keep posting new threads looking for the same scene all the time because the pic or video is slightly different or the runtime duration is off. You could split the site into sections. Find Name, Find Video, Find Pictures, ect...
Tips for users not getting confirms. The more links you post to prove the picture/gif/video is who you say it is, the easier someone will have to agree with you and then confirm you. Sometimes when i look to confirm others work they only post 1 lousy link to a video where i have to watch for a certain amount of time to agree or disagree. I'll admit that i usually just skip these and let others confirm these.
I guess it all depends on what direction you want this site to go in and is it mainly just to
identify pornstars/models.
The thing i would love to see is more ways to get points besides answering post first.
If the main reason for this site is only to identify people then i can see where this probably
won't be viable. On the other hand, this could encourage people to contribute more to certain posts they like for example someone provided more usefull links to full videos or higher quality video streams and the OP liked them. Then the OP or another user that found them and liked them could reward the poster with a +25 or a +50 for a high quality link. You could call it a gold link/share or whatever you like. There are sometimes i solve a question but i take longer to solve it because i look for the best sources for it and by the time i'm done it is already solved, so i just abandon it. There could be issues with this though because people keep posting new threads looking for the same scene all the time because the pic or video is slightly different or the runtime duration is off. You could split the site into sections. Find Name, Find Video, Find Pictures, ect...
Tips for users not getting confirms. The more links you post to prove the picture/gif/video is who you say it is, the easier someone will have to agree with you and then confirm you. Sometimes when i look to confirm others work they only post 1 lousy link to a video where i have to watch for a certain amount of time to agree or disagree. I'll admit that i usually just skip these and let others confirm these.
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true, it could get pretty slow. its mostly a matter of resources and code optimization though. but i understand that you guys dont have the budget of google or microsoft.
the partial answer warning for "where can i find this video" threads is a really good thing. maybe you could add the same warning for "name of this pornstar" threads, when someone forgets to use tags. although it would be better if that warning would appear before you actually post something. (if its not working like that already. cant remember.)
the point splitting sounds good too, but i think half is a bit too much. sometimes the porn star is really well known, but the video is really hard to find. if the reward for just the name is too high, this could be abused pretty easily. maybe 20-30% would be more suitable for that.
like i suggested earlier, you could compare the tags that the user wants to post, with the tags that have already been posted in the thread. that shouldnt cost much cpu time, since threads are usually short and only contain a few tags. i still think that a notification in such case would be a good thing. in the end everyone will and should do what they want to do, but stuff like that would help us be more aware of what is going on in the thread, before we blindly post something.
i also think that solving a thread early and quickly should be rewarded with more points. i rarely see high lvl users even trying to help with anything that has less than 500-600 points. maybe you could also add some sort of achievments / medals in the distant future, that could be put to display next to your name or whatever. you could get rewarded for solving x posts that arent older than y. or x posts that are hard to solve and so on. people do like acknowledgement after all.
the partial answer warning for "where can i find this video" threads is a really good thing. maybe you could add the same warning for "name of this pornstar" threads, when someone forgets to use tags. although it would be better if that warning would appear before you actually post something. (if its not working like that already. cant remember.)
the point splitting sounds good too, but i think half is a bit too much. sometimes the porn star is really well known, but the video is really hard to find. if the reward for just the name is too high, this could be abused pretty easily. maybe 20-30% would be more suitable for that.
like i suggested earlier, you could compare the tags that the user wants to post, with the tags that have already been posted in the thread. that shouldnt cost much cpu time, since threads are usually short and only contain a few tags. i still think that a notification in such case would be a good thing. in the end everyone will and should do what they want to do, but stuff like that would help us be more aware of what is going on in the thread, before we blindly post something.
i also think that solving a thread early and quickly should be rewarded with more points. i rarely see high lvl users even trying to help with anything that has less than 500-600 points. maybe you could also add some sort of achievments / medals in the distant future, that could be put to display next to your name or whatever. you could get rewarded for solving x posts that arent older than y. or x posts that are hard to solve and so on. people do like acknowledgement after all.
The known pornstars name detection has been live-trialed, but it is way too slow and the pornstar index is fully automatic at the moment.
I think, that best solution would be partial credit points for original name-tag. So the if nametags are provided, but for example video is not. Then the award goes splits. That is doable. But first the natural solve ratio has to go higher.
I think, that best solution would be partial credit points for original name-tag. So the if nametags are provided, but for example video is not. Then the award goes splits. That is doable. But first the natural solve ratio has to go higher.
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like i said multiple times already, this is not specifically a "where can i find this video" problem. point stealing mostly happens with "name of this porn actress" threads, where partial answers dont really exist. often this happens simply because of the order of the posts. reversing it, would solve a lot of "confusion" by default. for non-moderators at least.
if you dont want to block double tags, you should really consider adding automatic tags when a known porn star name was found in the text. and when someone wants to re-post the same name, a simple notifaction that the name was already posted before, would be great. that way the user could choose to confirm the already existing name, or ignore it and post it anyway. i dont think that most users double post on purpose though. i think they simply dont bother to scroll down and see if the thread has already been answered. all they see is that the thread wasnt marked as solved yet and they post their answer right away, without ever checking any of the previous answers. an actual message that notifies the user about an already existing name in that thread, would drastically decrease the amount of double posts in my opinion.
i do appreciate your guys efforts and looking into this issue however. if i didnt like this site in general, i wouldnt have bothered creating a thread like this. i think that this site has the potential of becoming something really great. currently, solving a post often feels like a total waste of time. i hope you will improve the whole point and solving system, so that helping others feels more rewarding in the future.
like i said multiple times already, this is not specifically a "where can i find this video" problem. point stealing mostly happens with "name of this porn actress" threads, where partial answers dont really exist. often this happens simply because of the order of the posts. reversing it, would solve a lot of "confusion" by default. for non-moderators at least.
if you dont want to block double tags, you should really consider adding automatic tags when a known porn star name was found in the text. and when someone wants to re-post the same name, a simple notifaction that the name was already posted before, would be great. that way the user could choose to confirm the already existing name, or ignore it and post it anyway. i dont think that most users double post on purpose though. i think they simply dont bother to scroll down and see if the thread has already been answered. all they see is that the thread wasnt marked as solved yet and they post their answer right away, without ever checking any of the previous answers. an actual message that notifies the user about an already existing name in that thread, would drastically decrease the amount of double posts in my opinion.
i do appreciate your guys efforts and looking into this issue however. if i didnt like this site in general, i wouldnt have bothered creating a thread like this. i think that this site has the potential of becoming something really great. currently, solving a post often feels like a total waste of time. i hope you will improve the whole point and solving system, so that helping others feels more rewarding in the future.
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