What's the name of this vintage brunette.
I saw this picture on fapality.com under vintage blowjob porn pictures, 3 of 42. Does anyone know the name of this super sexy brunette model?
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Her name is Nicole Segaud aka Helene Shirley, here with Gabriel Pontello, in a "retouched" picture from the photo novel that accompanied the second VHS release by French pornographer Marc Dorcel in 1980, titled Les Mauvaises rencontres (US title: Sweet Dreams).
Download (full movie):
https://filejoker.net/sjlke0atdeo6
Stream (full movie):
Scene 2 starts at around 10:39 min.
Infos for more context:
When you look closely to the lower right corner of the cover above, you can read: "BONUS - ROMAN PHOTO - 44 pages." The cover is from the DVD, collector's edition, that seems to be out of stock:
https://www.dzirs.com/fr/dvd/2236-les-mauvaises-rencontres-marilyn-jess.htm
l
Apparently, when photographer Marc Dorcel started experimenting with video shoots for VHS, he recruited the models and crew from his photo shoots and published both together. He did this for his first four or five films, but it turned out to be too expensive. You can read more about the details here (in French):
https://dictionnaire.sensagent.leparisien.fr/marc%20dorcel/fr-fr/
https://www.streetpress.com/sujet/1415009639-80-ans-marc-dorcel-passe-confe
sse
http://www.samueldegasne.com/2016/05/marc-dorcel-pere-fils-et-sein-esprit.h
tml
From the first page, this is what google translates:
In the early 1970s, the craze for erotic works declined. But there is a market for erotic photo novels. These are American magazines imported into France and "retouched": the sexes and pubic hair are masked by crudely drawn underwear. To obtain them, consumers were ready to pay up to 120 or 140 francs, a significant sum for the time. Marc Dorcel then decides to launch the first French erotic photo novel in color.
Marc Dorcel then diversified into video thanks to the "Vidéo Marc Dorcel" brand. Jolies Petites Garces is the first X film produced and directed by Marc Dorcel, in 1980. This 53-minute pornographic video includes the performances of Marilyn Jess and Piotr Stanislas. More than 4,000 VHS cassettes of Jolies Petites Garces are sold in sex shops. At 500 francs per cassette, the benefits are very significant.
And from the second page, more details in his own words from an interview:
How did you recruit your team for this film?
I made a synopsis on 3 pages as I would have done for a photo novel. I managed to find a nice setting. A homosexual had rented his apartment to me in Pigalle, something refined, usually they are sophisticated people… And my photographer, who had never held a camera, did the cameraman. The film is not technically successful. Nevertheless, there were very beautiful girls. For my photo novels, I was already recruiting the most beautiful castings: Marylin Jess, Julia Perrin, Piotr Stanislas… With three characters, I made a film. I liked it and professionals came to see me offering their services. I said ok and that's how Dorcel started.
The second film must have been Les Mauvaises rencontres. I was shooting the film and at the same time, I had a photographer to release a photo novel for those who were not equipped. I did that for 4 or 5 films but it was too expensive, it doubled the budget and I only continued the films.
So, basically - if I understand all of that correctly: OPs picture was taken from the same porn shoot with the same cast, but then it was retouched afterwards to "pep it up" in colour and details.
According to the following forum thread, the photo novel was also released in German, titled Duo für drei Dosen, by Edition Magenta Paris in 1981:
https://porncoven.com/threads/35217-German-Foto-Novel-based-on-Les-Mauvaise
s-rencontres-%28Sweet-Dreams%29
I assume that's basically the same, just in a different language. If at all - perhaps only the title is German? And there might be other versions around that use the same photos, maybe even for different stories? I can't say, because I tried to find a scan of this photo novel anywhere - but I was not able to. I guess it's very very rare online... If anyone can provide it, that would be great and much appreciated!
Reference:
https://www.dorcelstore.com/fr/les-mauvaises-rencontres.html
https://www.dorcelvision.com/fr/films/marc-dorcel/les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/review/sweet-dreams-classic-x
https://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=mauvaises+rencontres/year=1980
https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=heleneshirley/gender=f
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/311621-les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128335/
https://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/m00123
Download (full movie):
https://filejoker.net/sjlke0atdeo6
Stream (full movie):
Scene 2 starts at around 10:39 min.
Infos for more context:
When you look closely to the lower right corner of the cover above, you can read: "BONUS - ROMAN PHOTO - 44 pages." The cover is from the DVD, collector's edition, that seems to be out of stock:
https://www.dzirs.com/fr/dvd/2236-les-mauvaises-rencontres-marilyn-jess.htm
l
Apparently, when photographer Marc Dorcel started experimenting with video shoots for VHS, he recruited the models and crew from his photo shoots and published both together. He did this for his first four or five films, but it turned out to be too expensive. You can read more about the details here (in French):
https://dictionnaire.sensagent.leparisien.fr/marc%20dorcel/fr-fr/
https://www.streetpress.com/sujet/1415009639-80-ans-marc-dorcel-passe-confe
sse
http://www.samueldegasne.com/2016/05/marc-dorcel-pere-fils-et-sein-esprit.h
tml
From the first page, this is what google translates:
In the early 1970s, the craze for erotic works declined. But there is a market for erotic photo novels. These are American magazines imported into France and "retouched": the sexes and pubic hair are masked by crudely drawn underwear. To obtain them, consumers were ready to pay up to 120 or 140 francs, a significant sum for the time. Marc Dorcel then decides to launch the first French erotic photo novel in color.
Marc Dorcel then diversified into video thanks to the "Vidéo Marc Dorcel" brand. Jolies Petites Garces is the first X film produced and directed by Marc Dorcel, in 1980. This 53-minute pornographic video includes the performances of Marilyn Jess and Piotr Stanislas. More than 4,000 VHS cassettes of Jolies Petites Garces are sold in sex shops. At 500 francs per cassette, the benefits are very significant.
And from the second page, more details in his own words from an interview:
How did you recruit your team for this film?
I made a synopsis on 3 pages as I would have done for a photo novel. I managed to find a nice setting. A homosexual had rented his apartment to me in Pigalle, something refined, usually they are sophisticated people… And my photographer, who had never held a camera, did the cameraman. The film is not technically successful. Nevertheless, there were very beautiful girls. For my photo novels, I was already recruiting the most beautiful castings: Marylin Jess, Julia Perrin, Piotr Stanislas… With three characters, I made a film. I liked it and professionals came to see me offering their services. I said ok and that's how Dorcel started.
The second film must have been Les Mauvaises rencontres. I was shooting the film and at the same time, I had a photographer to release a photo novel for those who were not equipped. I did that for 4 or 5 films but it was too expensive, it doubled the budget and I only continued the films.
So, basically - if I understand all of that correctly: OPs picture was taken from the same porn shoot with the same cast, but then it was retouched afterwards to "pep it up" in colour and details.
According to the following forum thread, the photo novel was also released in German, titled Duo für drei Dosen, by Edition Magenta Paris in 1981:
https://porncoven.com/threads/35217-German-Foto-Novel-based-on-Les-Mauvaise
s-rencontres-%28Sweet-Dreams%29
I assume that's basically the same, just in a different language. If at all - perhaps only the title is German? And there might be other versions around that use the same photos, maybe even for different stories? I can't say, because I tried to find a scan of this photo novel anywhere - but I was not able to. I guess it's very very rare online... If anyone can provide it, that would be great and much appreciated!
Reference:
https://www.dorcelstore.com/fr/les-mauvaises-rencontres.html
https://www.dorcelvision.com/fr/films/marc-dorcel/les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/review/sweet-dreams-classic-x
https://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=mauvaises+rencontres/year=1980
https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=heleneshirley/gender=f
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/311621-les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128335/
https://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/m00123
charlyboy10, blackrod69, Hellas678, JAVhunter87 and newporn_finder confirms this as correct.
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That picture is of that magazine session.dudefromspainreport
That picture is of that magazine session.dudefromspainreport
Do not misunderstand. I appreciate much your contribution. But, I had this magazine, a long time. I had the opportunity to watch these photos for a long time, the complete scene, and nothing to do with the XVideos video.
Not doubt, she and he is that actress and actor, her clouthing is more and less equaly, but noy is the scene :(
I only say this, that this photo for which they ask, I think not have video scene. its a photos session. Maybe for magazine? I dont know.
Hopefully we can find the, scene if it exists, because it was worth it in images in the magazine, on video it must be quite an experience. Regards.dudefromspainreport
Not doubt, she and he is that actress and actor, her clouthing is more and less equaly, but noy is the scene :(
I only say this, that this photo for which they ask, I think not have video scene. its a photos session. Maybe for magazine? I dont know.
Hopefully we can find the, scene if it exists, because it was worth it in images in the magazine, on video it must be quite an experience. Regards.dudefromspainreport
@dudefromspain
You write:
"I had this magazine where publicated this scene, and not is the film of you speaking."
Please read my answer again. Especially everything under the point "Infos for more context." I write about how Marc Dorcel published 2 things: A video on VHS (his second ever) AND an erotic photo novel. I quote Marc Dorcel from an interview:
"I was shooting the film and at the same time, I had a photographer to release a photo novel for those who were not equipped."
I assume that the magazine that you remember used the same photos from this novel. Look at the example that I gave with the German publication "Duo für drei Dosen." It is my assumption that there were several different print versions in different European countries. And I guess your version from the magazine was the Spanish one.
You also write:
"And the picture, hasn't been edited. ...
I see all scenes what you publicated and not are identic to the scene of there magazine."
It is my understanding that the pictures from the original novel and the pictures in your magazine are indeed edited! They are "retouched" images from the video footage. That means someone manipulated them with colours, different haircuts, different dresses, and many more things for the print publication.
I am not a technical expert, and I am not an expert for this kind of porn. So I don't know how this "retouche process" is done at all and I'm not sure I am correct. But I quote from an article that states the following:
"In the early 1970s, the craze for erotic works declined. But there is a market for erotic photo novels. These are American magazines imported into France and "retouched": the sexes and pubic hair are masked by crudely drawn underwear."
As long as I understand the interviews with Marc Dorcel, he was an expert for such image manipulations. And it is my understanding that he did the same here in this case. He took the footage from the video and created new pictures for his novel (it's a bit like the modern "photoshop" before photoshop even existed).
I might be wrong with all of this! It would be great if someone had this photo novel or your magazine at home. And this someone could scan the pages and put it online - just to take a look at the original. Or if someone could explain the technical process of "retouching" these pictures for print - and prove my assumption right or wrong.
But until then, I think that my explanation makes sense.newbie2report
You write:
"I had this magazine where publicated this scene, and not is the film of you speaking."
Please read my answer again. Especially everything under the point "Infos for more context." I write about how Marc Dorcel published 2 things: A video on VHS (his second ever) AND an erotic photo novel. I quote Marc Dorcel from an interview:
"I was shooting the film and at the same time, I had a photographer to release a photo novel for those who were not equipped."
I assume that the magazine that you remember used the same photos from this novel. Look at the example that I gave with the German publication "Duo für drei Dosen." It is my assumption that there were several different print versions in different European countries. And I guess your version from the magazine was the Spanish one.
You also write:
"And the picture, hasn't been edited. ...
I see all scenes what you publicated and not are identic to the scene of there magazine."
It is my understanding that the pictures from the original novel and the pictures in your magazine are indeed edited! They are "retouched" images from the video footage. That means someone manipulated them with colours, different haircuts, different dresses, and many more things for the print publication.
I am not a technical expert, and I am not an expert for this kind of porn. So I don't know how this "retouche process" is done at all and I'm not sure I am correct. But I quote from an article that states the following:
"In the early 1970s, the craze for erotic works declined. But there is a market for erotic photo novels. These are American magazines imported into France and "retouched": the sexes and pubic hair are masked by crudely drawn underwear."
As long as I understand the interviews with Marc Dorcel, he was an expert for such image manipulations. And it is my understanding that he did the same here in this case. He took the footage from the video and created new pictures for his novel (it's a bit like the modern "photoshop" before photoshop even existed).
I might be wrong with all of this! It would be great if someone had this photo novel or your magazine at home. And this someone could scan the pages and put it online - just to take a look at the original. Or if someone could explain the technical process of "retouching" these pictures for print - and prove my assumption right or wrong.
But until then, I think that my explanation makes sense.newbie2report
One detail, the hair of Nicole Segaud for example, is long, in this picture and the magazine, but in this scene of XVideos not. The costume of she It is not the same, one is checkered and others with floral motifs... The man´s pant is black, here is grey, etc, etc...dudefromspainreport
None answer is correct. I had this magazine where publicated this scene, and not is the film of you speaking. Probably are the themselves actors same to this scene, but not is the answer of picture of cuestion. And the picture, hasn´t been edited.
A few ago weeks for misfortune I threw many magazines of 80´s and 90´s where was this... a pity.
I see all scenes what you publicated and not are identic to the scene of there magazine. Sorry.dudefromspainreport
A few ago weeks for misfortune I threw many magazines of 80´s and 90´s where was this... a pity.
I see all scenes what you publicated and not are identic to the scene of there magazine. Sorry.dudefromspainreport
Just for info: I updated my answer, because I figured a few things out that were unclear to me before. Now it seems correct. ;-)newbie2report
Her name is Nicole Segaud aka Helene Shirley, here with Gabriel Pontello, in a "retouched" picture from the photo novel that accompanied the second VHS release by French pornographer Marc Dorcel in 1980, titled Les Mauvaises rencontres (US title: Sweet Dreams).
Download (full movie):
https://filejoker.net/sjlke0atdeo6
Stream (full movie):
Scene 2 starts at around 10:39 min.
Infos for more context:
When you look closely to the lower right corner of the cover above, you can read: "BONUS - ROMAN PHOTO - 44 pages." The cover is from the DVD, collector's edition, that seems to be out of stock:
https://www.dzirs.com/fr/dvd/2236-les-mauvaises-rencontres-marilyn-jess.htm
l
Apparently, when photographer Marc Dorcel started experimenting with video shoots for VHS, he recruited the models and crew from his photo shoots and published both together. He did this for his first four or five films, but it turned out to be too expensive. You can read more about the details here (in French):
https://dictionnaire.sensagent.leparisien.fr/marc%20dorcel/fr-fr/
https://www.streetpress.com/sujet/1415009639-80-ans-marc-dorcel-passe-confe
sse
http://www.samueldegasne.com/2016/05/marc-dorcel-pere-fils-et-sein-esprit.h
tml
From the first page, this is what google translates:
In the early 1970s, the craze for erotic works declined. But there is a market for erotic photo novels. These are American magazines imported into France and "retouched": the sexes and pubic hair are masked by crudely drawn underwear. To obtain them, consumers were ready to pay up to 120 or 140 francs, a significant sum for the time. Marc Dorcel then decides to launch the first French erotic photo novel in color.
Marc Dorcel then diversified into video thanks to the "Vidéo Marc Dorcel" brand. Jolies Petites Garces is the first X film produced and directed by Marc Dorcel, in 1980. This 53-minute pornographic video includes the performances of Marilyn Jess and Piotr Stanislas. More than 4,000 VHS cassettes of Jolies Petites Garces are sold in sex shops. At 500 francs per cassette, the benefits are very significant.
And from the second page, more details in his own words from an interview:
How did you recruit your team for this film?
I made a synopsis on 3 pages as I would have done for a photo novel. I managed to find a nice setting. A homosexual had rented his apartment to me in Pigalle, something refined, usually they are sophisticated people… And my photographer, who had never held a camera, did the cameraman. The film is not technically successful. Nevertheless, there were very beautiful girls. For my photo novels, I was already recruiting the most beautiful castings: Marylin Jess, Julia Perrin, Piotr Stanislas… With three characters, I made a film. I liked it and professionals came to see me offering their services. I said ok and that's how Dorcel started.
The second film must have been Les Mauvaises rencontres. I was shooting the film and at the same time, I had a photographer to release a photo novel for those who were not equipped. I did that for 4 or 5 films but it was too expensive, it doubled the budget and I only continued the films.
So, basically - if I understand all of that correctly: OPs picture was taken from the same porn shoot with the same cast, but then it was retouched afterwards to "pep it up" in colour and details.
According to the following forum thread, the photo novel was also released in German, titled Duo für drei Dosen, by Edition Magenta Paris in 1981:
https://porncoven.com/threads/35217-German-Foto-Novel-based-on-Les-Mauvaise
s-rencontres-%28Sweet-Dreams%29
I assume that's basically the same, just in a different language. If at all - perhaps only the title is German? And there might be other versions around that use the same photos, maybe even for different stories? I can't say, because I tried to find a scan of this photo novel anywhere - but I was not able to. I guess it's very very rare online... If anyone can provide it, that would be great and much appreciated!
Reference:
https://www.dorcelstore.com/fr/les-mauvaises-rencontres.html
https://www.dorcelvision.com/fr/films/marc-dorcel/les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/review/sweet-dreams-classic-x
https://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=mauvaises+rencontres/year=1980
https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=heleneshirley/gender=f
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/311621-les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128335/
https://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/m00123
Download (full movie):
https://filejoker.net/sjlke0atdeo6
Stream (full movie):
Scene 2 starts at around 10:39 min.
Infos for more context:
When you look closely to the lower right corner of the cover above, you can read: "BONUS - ROMAN PHOTO - 44 pages." The cover is from the DVD, collector's edition, that seems to be out of stock:
https://www.dzirs.com/fr/dvd/2236-les-mauvaises-rencontres-marilyn-jess.htm
l
Apparently, when photographer Marc Dorcel started experimenting with video shoots for VHS, he recruited the models and crew from his photo shoots and published both together. He did this for his first four or five films, but it turned out to be too expensive. You can read more about the details here (in French):
https://dictionnaire.sensagent.leparisien.fr/marc%20dorcel/fr-fr/
https://www.streetpress.com/sujet/1415009639-80-ans-marc-dorcel-passe-confe
sse
http://www.samueldegasne.com/2016/05/marc-dorcel-pere-fils-et-sein-esprit.h
tml
From the first page, this is what google translates:
In the early 1970s, the craze for erotic works declined. But there is a market for erotic photo novels. These are American magazines imported into France and "retouched": the sexes and pubic hair are masked by crudely drawn underwear. To obtain them, consumers were ready to pay up to 120 or 140 francs, a significant sum for the time. Marc Dorcel then decides to launch the first French erotic photo novel in color.
Marc Dorcel then diversified into video thanks to the "Vidéo Marc Dorcel" brand. Jolies Petites Garces is the first X film produced and directed by Marc Dorcel, in 1980. This 53-minute pornographic video includes the performances of Marilyn Jess and Piotr Stanislas. More than 4,000 VHS cassettes of Jolies Petites Garces are sold in sex shops. At 500 francs per cassette, the benefits are very significant.
And from the second page, more details in his own words from an interview:
How did you recruit your team for this film?
I made a synopsis on 3 pages as I would have done for a photo novel. I managed to find a nice setting. A homosexual had rented his apartment to me in Pigalle, something refined, usually they are sophisticated people… And my photographer, who had never held a camera, did the cameraman. The film is not technically successful. Nevertheless, there were very beautiful girls. For my photo novels, I was already recruiting the most beautiful castings: Marylin Jess, Julia Perrin, Piotr Stanislas… With three characters, I made a film. I liked it and professionals came to see me offering their services. I said ok and that's how Dorcel started.
The second film must have been Les Mauvaises rencontres. I was shooting the film and at the same time, I had a photographer to release a photo novel for those who were not equipped. I did that for 4 or 5 films but it was too expensive, it doubled the budget and I only continued the films.
So, basically - if I understand all of that correctly: OPs picture was taken from the same porn shoot with the same cast, but then it was retouched afterwards to "pep it up" in colour and details.
According to the following forum thread, the photo novel was also released in German, titled Duo für drei Dosen, by Edition Magenta Paris in 1981:
https://porncoven.com/threads/35217-German-Foto-Novel-based-on-Les-Mauvaise
s-rencontres-%28Sweet-Dreams%29
I assume that's basically the same, just in a different language. If at all - perhaps only the title is German? And there might be other versions around that use the same photos, maybe even for different stories? I can't say, because I tried to find a scan of this photo novel anywhere - but I was not able to. I guess it's very very rare online... If anyone can provide it, that would be great and much appreciated!
Reference:
https://www.dorcelstore.com/fr/les-mauvaises-rencontres.html
https://www.dorcelvision.com/fr/films/marc-dorcel/les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.adultdvdtalk.com/review/sweet-dreams-classic-x
https://www.iafd.com/title.rme/title=mauvaises+rencontres/year=1980
https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=heleneshirley/gender=f
https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/311621-les-mauvaises-rencontres
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0128335/
https://www.egafd.com/films/details.php/id/m00123
charlyboy10, blackrod69, Hellas678, JAVhunter87 and newporn_finder confirms this as correct.
I had a magazine (I don't remember its name) where the sequence of this slide appeared. The story was about a bullfighter who went to the house of the wife of another bullfighter and fucked her. The aunt was quite hot, I don't know if there will be any video of those images. The magazine was at least 25 years old.dudefromspainreport
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